Re: [DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-25 Thread Nick Kew
On 26 May 2012, at 03:54, Sam Ruby wrote: > https://whimsy.apache.org/infra/mlreq > > Nothing fancy: simple data gathering. Output will be validated and > placed into svn as input to another tool down the chain. > > The topic I would like to discuss is what additional input validation > should

[DISCUSS] Prototype ASF Mailing List Request form

2012-05-25 Thread Sam Ruby
https://whimsy.apache.org/infra/mlreq Nothing fancy: simple data gathering. Output will be validated and placed into svn as input to another tool down the chain. The topic I would like to discuss is what additional input validation should be done. Mailing list names have specific formats. Wit

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Aaron Kimball
Hi folks, Just to throw my hat into the ring on this subject: I recognize that I have been inactive from a contribution standpoint since Flume's introduction into the ASF incubator, but still follow Flume on the mailing lists and in other community meetups. I've done a bunch of work with Flume in

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Arun C Murthy
Agreed about the Review tool... I've had similar problems when it's used in Hadoop (however, thankfully, it's usage is fairly miniscule.) Arun On May 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 25, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: >> >> That leaves just me as the only non-Cloudera PPMC member who actively >> participates and I don't commit code and I've been on the PPMC primarily as >> a mentor. If you somehow believe that this constitutes diversity than my >> job as

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-25 Thread Josh Wills
Hi Steve, Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Replies inlined below. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > On 23 May 2012 19:35, Josh Wills wrote: > >> Hey Jakob, >> >> This was a tough one-- you know that I've been talking about Crunch >> w/Joe Adler for a few weeks now,

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve Loughran >> wrote: >>> On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-25 Thread Jakob Homan
> Assuming the VOTE passes, I hope you'll still give the project a chance, > Jakob.  Given your rep around the ASF, if you contribute as you have to other > projects yet your merit goes unrecognized, I suspect that the Crunch's Mentors > are going to be asking questions. ;) I imagine we'll continu

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I don't claim that JIRA helps, but I also don't accept the proposition > that JIRA hurts. I claim it does both. > I think that we should focus on the community, not the tools. The > JIRA-oriented projects I follow have JIRA set to send a

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 25, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Ralph Goers < > ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote: > > > >> > >> On May 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > > The current PPMC consists o

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-25 Thread Josh Wills
Hi Jukka, Apologies for the delay, I had a vacation day. Replies inline. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Josh Wills wrote: >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CrunchProposal > > Some comments from the related vote thread: > >> for

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve Loughran > wrote: >> On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view >>> of the world. I suspect that if they did a bunch of other go

JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view >> of the world. I suspect that if they did a bunch of other good things >> called out below, you or others would find the JIRA

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Steve Loughran
On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: > I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view > of the world. I suspect that if they did a bunch of other good things > called out below, you or others would find the JIRA business > digestible. Also, on the other hand, I fear that th

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Steve Loughran
On 24 May 2012 07:44, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > To me that seems like it raises a barrier to entry -- but then, > there are numerous projects around the ASF who are not hurting for > contributors and who use JIRA for *everything* -- starting with Hadoop and > Lucene. > > I first encountered when

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-25 Thread Steve Loughran
On 23 May 2012 19:35, Josh Wills wrote: > Hey Jakob, > > This was a tough one-- you know that I've been talking about Crunch > w/Joe Adler for a few weeks now, and I personally am really looking > forward to working with you guys. That said, the team did feel > strongly about keeping the initial

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Bruce Mitchener
I was involved with Flume prior to coming to Apache ... then a baby arrived and things sort of changed for the last year. But you're right that I haven't been around since then ... I still have a couple of source trees around with various changes in them, but no idea what the status of any of that

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 25, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Ralph Goers > wrote: > >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: >>> >>> There are four companies represented in this list: AVG Technologies, >>> Cloudera, CyberAgent and Trend Micro. Co

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > > > > There are four companies represented in this list: AVG Technologies, > > Cloudera, CyberAgent and Trend Micro. Compared to other projects that > have > > successfully graduated fr

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-25 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
Hi, On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > I started reading some of the Flume website and I think that when you go > to the main Wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLUME/Index > > When you click on the "Flume Cookbook" the resource is at cloudera.org. >