Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Sammer
I appreciate your position Ralph and I don't want anyone to feel like they can't contribute. As we've talked about before, we've been quick to nurture new contributors to committer status successfully in a few cases. It's true that some of the more active committers are from Cloudera, but it's not

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > I'm just saying I find it difficult to participate with that style and that > simply makes me wonder if that is making it harder to attract new > committers. I suspect it attracts some and drives away others. I frikkin' hate JIRA notificatio

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 23, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> >>> On May 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 23, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> On May 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers >>> wrote: Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 23, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> >> On May 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers >>> wrote: Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers >> wrote: >>> Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread and I posted my >>> reply and discovered to my shock that they

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers > wrote: >> Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread and I posted my >> reply and discovered to my shock that they had started a graduation vote. I >> am shocked because I ha

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Benson Margulies
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread and I posted my > reply and discovered to my shock that they had started a graduation vote.  I > am shocked because I have pointed out repeatedly the project's complete lack > of div

Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-23 Thread Ralph Goers
Right after I read Jukka's email that started this thread and I posted my reply and discovered to my shock that they had started a graduation vote. I am shocked because I have pointed out repeatedly the project's complete lack of diversity. Virtually all the active PMC members and committers w

Re: Invitation to join Apache Kafka as a committer

2012-05-23 Thread Kevan Miller
On May 23, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > -kafka-private > +kafka-dev > +general > > Ahh, account was only created. According to root: > >> Only PMC chairs can grant karma. If needed, please post to the general@/ >> dev@/private@ list of your project asking for someone with suffi

Re: June reports in two weeks

2012-05-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > Perhaps someone will have some insight on how to gather new > contributors that hasn't been tried yet? Jukka's written on this subject multiple times in the past. Here are two gems, one from a while back, the other recent: http://markma

Re: Invitation to join Apache Kafka as a committer

2012-05-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
-kafka-private +kafka-dev +general Ahh, account was only created. According to root: > Only PMC chairs can grant karma. If needed, please post to the general@/ > dev@/private@ list of your project asking for someone with sufficient > karma to grant access to 'jjkoshy'. Sorry about this confusi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Ahmed Radwan
[ ] +1, bring Crunch into Incubator On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below.  We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as > Champion,

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Mike Percy
[x] +1, bring Crunch into Incubator (non-binding) Regards, Mike On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below. We ask the Incubator PMC to spo

Re: June reports in two weeks

2012-05-23 Thread Ralph Goers
Jukka, since the last report I have changed my opinion a bit and recommend you add Flume to the "low diversity" list. Ralph On May 23, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi all, > > There's plenty of time still before the June reports [1] start flowing > in. As an early remainder to podl

Re: June reports in two weeks

2012-05-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
Hi Jukka, I'm also concerned for S4 not having a release and low activity. I pinged them about cutting a release a couple months ago and they said they weren't ready. As for activity there is some mailing list traffic but almost no jira/commits listed in april/may. For Bigtop i've been tracking di

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > Totally understand, although basing your criteria on S4's approach, > which has a rocky time in the incubator and has yet to create a > release, is certainly an interesting approach.  Best of luck. Assuming the VOTE passes, I hope you'll stil

June reports in two weeks

2012-05-23 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi all, There's plenty of time still before the June reports [1] start flowing in. As an early remainder to podlings starting to draft their reports, here's how the IPMC saw your status as of the previous quarterly report in March [2]: IP clearance: Openmeetings No release: Bloodhound, Cordov

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
[X] +1, bring Crunch into Incubator (non-binding) Thanks, Arvind Prabhakar On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below. We ask the Incubator PMC

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Edward J. Yoon
+1 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > +1 > > Patrick > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> +1 >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> >> On May 23, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: >> >>> I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for >>> i

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
+1 Patrick On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > +1 > > > Regards, > Alan > > > On May 23, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > >> I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for >> incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available >> below.  

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On May 23, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as > Champion, and phunt, tomwhite

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below.  We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as > Champion, and phunt, tomwhite, and acmurthy vol

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
+1 (non-binding) +Vinod On May 23, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as > Champion, and phunt, tom

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CrunchProposal Some comments from the related vote thread: > formally released twice, as versions 0.1.0 (October 2010) and 0.2.0 s/2010/2011/ I presume. > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission P

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below.  We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as > Champion, and phunt, tomwhite, and acmurthy

Re: [VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Brock Noland
[X] +1, bring Crunch into Incubator (non-binding) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for > incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available > below. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Josh Wills
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Josh Wills wrote: >> That said, the team did feel strongly about keeping the initial committers >> to people who had already added major pieces of functionality to Crunch > > Speaking as a former benevolen

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > That said, the team did feel strongly about keeping the initial committers > to people who had already added major pieces of functionality to Crunch Speaking as a former benevolent dictator... When you bring a project to Apache, you have to a

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Jakob Homan
Totally understand, although basing your criteria on S4's approach, which has a rocky time in the incubator and has yet to create a release, is certainly an interesting approach. Best of luck. -jg On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > Hey Jakob, > > This was a tough one-- you kno

[VOTE] Accept Crunch into the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Josh Wills
I would like to call a vote for accepting "Apache Crunch" for incubation in the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available below. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it, with phunt as Champion, and phunt, tomwhite, and acmurthy volunteering to be Mentors. Please cast your vote: [ ] +1, bri

Re: [DISCUSS] Crunch to join the Apache Incubator

2012-05-23 Thread Josh Wills
Hey Jakob, This was a tough one-- you know that I've been talking about Crunch w/Joe Adler for a few weeks now, and I personally am really looking forward to working with you guys. That said, the team did feel strongly about keeping the initial committers to people who had already added major piec