Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Adam P Fuchs
Hello Doug, I appreciate your concerns, and I would like to try to provide some context that might help you understand why we think the ASF is the right place for Accumulo. Benson is correct that the Accumulo developers have historically not been authorized to participate in public open-source

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Doug Meil
Greetings Benson, re: "top-posting is generally less than ideal" It's funny that you would say that, because there was a 17 message email-chain about Accumulo this past weekend that you participated in, and I noticed that you didn't tell any of those people that posting on this dist-list was a

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Doug Meil
Re: "Highlander" Greatest movie ever. re: "Webservers" This is a good point, but a closer inspection of the webservers shows that the situation is quite different from Accumulo vs. HBase. Apache WS is in implemented in C, and Tomcat is implemented in Java. Accumulo is, effectively, trying

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Schaefer
The ASF is not Highlander.  If we're big enough to host a few different webservers, we're big enough for 2 "HBase" projects. > >From: Doug Meil >To: "general@incubator.apache.org" >Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:06 PM >Subject: Accumulo incubator proposal:

Re: Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Doug Meil, Top-posting is generally less than idea, but I want to respond to the overall theme of your message, not to individual points and sentences. The attitude of various chunks of the US government to Open Source has changed radically over the last few years. What would have been institutio

Accumulo incubator proposal: Statement of Concern

2011-09-06 Thread Doug Meil
I am writing to state my concerns with the Accumulo Incubator proposal, the HBase copy/clone. 1) “Accumulo has been in development since spring 2008.” I don’t fault anybody for being scared of HBase in 2008 – you’d have to be pretty brave to use it then. HBase 0.20 was the first release to g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accumulo for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-06 Thread Adam P Fuchs
Hey Steve, We would like to be able to contribute back where appropriate. We think that our BloomFilter improvements and some of our MapFile improvements are generally useful, and those should be pretty natural contributions back to Hadoop. Other modifications may not be so obviously generally

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accumulo for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-06 Thread Todd Lipcon
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: >> 1300 lines: heavily modified versions of Hadoop BloomFilters > > -any plan to contribute back to hadoop-core, or are they too incompatible > now? > > >> 419 lines: modified Hadoop TeraSortIngest to sort data using Accumulo >> 325 lines: our

Re: [PROPOSAL] Accumulo for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Loughran
On 04/09/11 17:39, Billie J Rinaldi wrote: Bernd, We would divide the derived code into two categories: that which we modified only slightly (for example to allow us to extend it) and that which we modified heavily. Now that we are able to interact openly, we hope to supply much of that back

Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator

2011-09-06 Thread Simone Tripodi
thanks a lot for your interest Reto, I just added you in the committers list in the proposal. Alles gute! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote: > I would like to join the project as committer. > > Cheers,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator

2011-09-06 Thread Reto Bachmann-Gmür
I would like to join the project as committer. Cheers, Reto On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Davide Palmisano wrote: >> >> >> >> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects >> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing. >> > > Absolutely. That's a thin