Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Big +1 from me. Cheers, Chris On 11/8/10 6:36 PM, "Ross Gardler" wrote: I am pleased to offer, for your consideration, the following proposal to accept Jena, a semantic web framework into the incubator. The text of the proposal is copied here for your convenience and can be found at http://wi

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 09/11/2010 00:15, Benson Margulies wrote: I use Jena at my day-job, so if there's a mentor shortage you can draft me. Actual users as mentors is great news. My team uses Jena, but I myself do not so knowledgeable mentors are important. Your on the list. Ross On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:36

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Benson Margulies
I use Jena at my day-job, so if there's a mentor shortage you can draft me. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I am pleased to offer, for your consideration, the following proposal to > accept Jena, a semantic web framework into the incubator. The text of the > proposal is copi

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
On 08/11/2010 23:49, Dave wrote: This is excellent news and a good proposal. I'm a Jena user myself and would like to volunteer as a mentor for the new podling, if an additional hand is needed. I've added you as a mentor - thanks Ross - Dave On Monday, November 8, 2010, Ross Gardler wrot

Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Dave
This is excellent news and a good proposal. I'm a Jena user myself and would like to volunteer as a mentor for the new podling, if an additional hand is needed. - Dave On Monday, November 8, 2010, Ross Gardler wrote: > I am pleased to offer, for your consideration, the following proposal to >

[Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
I am pleased to offer, for your consideration, the following proposal to accept Jena, a semantic web framework into the incubator. The text of the proposal is copied here for your convenience and can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JenaProposal We currently have two mentors so we'

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 08/11/10 17:30, Ian Dickinson wrote: Hi Donald, On 08/11/10 17:01, Donald Whytock wrote: Perhaps db.apache.org would be a better example? Should there be a semantic.apache.org? I looked around in db.apache.org and I couldn't see anything that said what the goals of that project are, sepa

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 08/11/10 18:32, Jeremy Carroll wrote: To make the commons discussion more concrete I would suggest the following items for the commons: - an IRI library - some code to do with vocabularies. - connecting to a URL and doing semweb aware content negotiation (this is typically done badly) (Act

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Perhaps db.apache.org would be a better example?  Should there be a > semantic.apache.org?... That's a possibility, but I would keep such a website for information that's common to ASF semantic projects, as opposed to making it an umbrella p

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Indeed this iPhone is a pain in so many ways. Even worse I seem to have become blind to so many of it's "useful" corrections. I suppose "sharing of appropriate code" makes more sense than sharif, but I wouldn't mind having Omar around if that can be pulled off. Sent from my mobile device. On

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Jeremy Carroll
On 11/8/2010 7:14 AM, Olivier Grisel wrote: There is a depedency relationship: - Stanbol is a of application level HTTP services and set of OSGi components that use: - Clerezza as an OSGi service provider which in turn is using: - Jena as a lib for parsing and serializing RDF models and as a SP

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Jeremy Carroll
To make the commons discussion more concrete I would suggest the following items for the commons: - an IRI library - some code to do with vocabularies. - connecting to a URL and doing semweb aware content negotiation (this is typically done badly) (Actually the IRI code should probably be wi

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Benson Margulies
I sense an iPhone at work here. Would that be Omar Sharif? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > For me this proposal means we should be aware of possibilities. There is no > intention of forcing collaboration on incubating projects. Each project > should continue to work on it

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
For me this proposal means we should be aware of possibilities. There is no intention of forcing collaboration on incubating projects. Each project should continue to work on it's own graduation. However there will probably be code that fan be shared. The sharif of appropriate code can only se

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ian Dickinson
Hi Donald, On 08/11/10 17:01, Donald Whytock wrote: > Perhaps db.apache.org would be a better example? Should there be a > semantic.apache.org? I looked around in db.apache.org and I couldn't see anything that said what the goals of that project are, separate from the goals of the individual sub-

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Donald Whytock
Perhaps db.apache.org would be a better example? Should there be a semantic.apache.org? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Ian Dickinson wrote: >> ...Bertrand wrote: >>... 2. A Semantic Commons area is created for commo

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Ian, On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Ian Dickinson wrote: > ...Bertrand wrote: >... >>> 2. A Semantic Commons area is created for common code between these >>> (and other) projects. Details to be discussed, this does probably not >>> warrant a separate Apache project, but might be managed by C

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ian Dickinson
On 08/11/10 15:09, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Wow! Jena is proposing to come to Apache??! Yep, the proposal has been under discussion for some time within the project, and Ross is now taking the lead in bringing it publicly into the incubator process. Bertrand wrote: >> 1. Clerezza, Stanbo

Re: Proposal document for JXTA Migration to ASF under name Chaupal

2010-11-08 Thread Jérôme Verstrynge
On 8/11/2010 3:42, Bernd Fondermann wrote: Hi Jerome, Any reason why you didn't follow Incubator process as Bertrand suggested? I missed Bertrand's point. Issue solved, see: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChaupalProposal I am the single point of contact for the JXTA community regarding movi

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Mattmann
Correction: actually not sure about 2003 but seems like we been using it for that long! Cheers, Chris Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 07:09:13 To: general@incubator.apache.org Reply-To: "general@incubat

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Olivier Grisel wrote: > On 8 November 2010 15:54, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>... 1. Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena are independent podlings, each aiming >> for top-level status > > There is a depedency relationship:... Agreed - I meant independent communities, code

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Olivier Grisel
On 8 November 2010 15:54, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > I'm following up on discussions here regarding relationships between > the incubating Clerezza podling and incoming Stanbol and Jena podlings > (see proposals at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator). > > Do people agree with the following

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Wow! Jena is proposing to come to Apache??! Sweet! We've used it in OODT since 2003...looking forward to it! Cheers, Chris On 11/8/10 7:04 AM, "Ross Gardler" wrote: As champion for Jena I agree in principle. I can't speak for the Jena team if course, but representatives are tracking this lis

Re: Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Ross Gardler
As champion for Jena I agree in principle. I can't speak for the Jena team if course, but representatives are tracking this list and have started discussing in their project list. I will be making the formal Jena proposal here very soon (just as soon as I'm not limited to the iPhone) - its in

Clerezza, Stanbol, Jena, Semantic Commons, WDYT?

2010-11-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, I'm following up on discussions here regarding relationships between the incubating Clerezza podling and incoming Stanbol and Jena podlings (see proposals at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator). Do people agree with the following structure? 1. Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena are independent podling

Re: Proposal document for JXTA Migration to ASF under name Chaupal

2010-11-08 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Hi Jerome, Any reason why you didn't follow Incubator process as Bertrand suggested? We'd be happy to get feedback to know where our documentation[1] is unclear or lacking detail. The mailing list archive is also full of best practices of successful incubation requests. Thanks, Bernd [1] http