Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Janne Jalkanen
I remember when the policy regarding @author tags was set several years ago. Plenty of projects were using them to identify developers. Is this documented anywhere? All I could find was a number of discussions referencing such a decision, but I could not find an actual document which state

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Ralph Goers > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:11:37 AM > Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly > > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > - Original Message > > > >> From: Ralph Goers > >>

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Ralph Goers To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:00:00 PM Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: So I found it: http://www

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Joe Schaefer > To: general@incubator.apache.org; antel...@apache.org > Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:20:11 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > - Original Message >

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Ralph Goers > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:00:00 PM > Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly > > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > > > So I found it: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html > > >

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: So I found it: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html Please take a look at http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses [1] If this document is not normative, please let me know. Granted, it says "sho

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread sebb
On 19/08/2009, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: > > > > On 18/08/2009, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ant, > > > > > > > > I didn't intend to make up stuff on the fly, especially

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: On 18/08/2009, Ralph Goers wrote: On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Ant, I didn't intend to make up stuff on the fly, especially policy. After having been through the fine points of LICENSE vs. NOTICE so many times, I thou

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Craig L Russell
So I found it: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html Please take a look at http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distributing-code-under-several-licenses [1] If this document is not normative, please let me know. Granted, it says "should" and not "must", so if there is a discussion presum

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread sebb
On 18/08/2009, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: > > > > Hi Ant, > > > > I didn't intend to make up stuff on the fly, especially policy. > > > > After having been through the fine points of LICENSE vs. NOTICE so many > times, I thought the consensus was t

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Ant, I didn't intend to make up stuff on the fly, especially policy. After having been through the fine points of LICENSE vs. NOTICE so many times, I thought the consensus was to put *all* licenses into the top level LICENSE file. Bu

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:46 AM, sebb wrote: > On 14/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: >> The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache >>  Cassandra 0.4.0-beta1. We would now like to request the approval of the >>  Incubator PMC for this release. >> >>  Cassandra is a massively sc

s/distribution/package/g (mostly) on releasemanagement.xml

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
In order to bring the text of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html in line with the text of http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html I would like to eliminate most of the usages of the word "distribution" in releasemanagement.xml and replace it with the word "package". I fin

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Joe Schaefer > To: general@incubator.apache.org; antel...@apache.org > Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:13:46 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > - Original Message >

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Ant, I didn't intend to make up stuff on the fly, especially policy. After having been through the fine points of LICENSE vs. NOTICE so many times, I thought the consensus was to put *all* licenses into the top level LICENSE file. But having just scoured the official public pages promul

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: ant elder > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:05:03 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Joe Schaeferwrote: >

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Evans
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:56 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > The distributed libthrift.jar is also missing a LICENSE.txt and > NOTICE.txt in its META-INF dir. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-566 -- Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > - Original Message > >> From: Joe Schaefer >> To: general@incubator.apache.org; antel...@apache.org >> Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:58:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Rel

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
Works for me, but to get my +1 I need to see libthrift.jar sorted out. - Original Message > From: Eric Evans > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:55:18 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 a

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Joe Schaefer > To: general@incubator.apache.org; antel...@apache.org > Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:58:16 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > - Original Message >

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Evans
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 07:58 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I would like to see at least a mention of the lib/licenses directory > in the LICENSE file. Does the patch attached to CASSANDRA-371[0] suffice? [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12416885/v1-0001-CASSANDRA-371-top-leve

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Craig L Russell > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:19:42 PM > Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly > > Hi Ant, > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:53 AM, ant elder wrote: > > > For the recent LICENSE and NOTICE file issues the c

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Ant, > > On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:53 AM, ant elder wrote: > >> For the recent LICENSE and NOTICE file issues the current policy >> allows for the different approaches, different TLPs use different >> approaches, there's not been consensus on

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Ant, On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:53 AM, ant elder wrote: For the recent LICENSE and NOTICE file issues the current policy allows for the different approaches, different TLPs use different approaches, there's not been consensus on a single approach, and there are relevant JIRAs open with legal that

Re: Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: ant elder > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:53:25 AM > Subject: Making up policy on the fly > > For a while now on general@ we've had people come along during a > poddling release votes and raise issues about things that ar

Making up policy on the fly

2009-08-18 Thread ant elder
For a while now on general@ we've had people come along during a poddling release votes and raise issues about things that aren't backed up by clear ASF policy or reasonably obvious consensus in behaviour of existing TLPs. Often poddlings just buckle and do a respin as thats easier than debating th

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, sebb wrote: > On 18/08/2009, ant elder wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sebb wrote: >> >> > On 18/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: >>  >> >>  >>  The vote is now closed with the following results: >>  >> >>  >>   * +1 votes: 3 (Matthias Wessendorf, Ant Elder,

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: ant elder > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: cassandra-...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:31:57 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1 > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sebbwrote: > > On 18

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread sebb
On 18/08/2009, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sebb wrote: > > > On 18/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: > >> > >> The vote is now closed with the following results: > >> > >> * +1 votes: 3 (Matthias Wessendorf, Ant Elder, Ian Holsman) > >> * 0 votes: 0 > >> * -1 votes:

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, sebb wrote: > On 18/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: >> >>  The vote is now closed with the following results: >> >>   * +1 votes: 3 (Matthias Wessendorf, Ant Elder, Ian Holsman) >>   * 0 votes: 0 >>   * -1 votes: 0 >> >>  The vote passes. > > I wish to raise an objectio

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM, sebb wrote: > On 18/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: >> >>  The vote is now closed with the following results: >> >>   * +1 votes: 3 (Matthias Wessendorf, Ant Elder, Ian Holsman) >>   * 0 votes: 0 >>   * -1 votes: 0 >> >>  The vote passes. I was surprised to read this,

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1

2009-08-18 Thread sebb
On 18/08/2009, Eric Evans wrote: > > The vote is now closed with the following results: > > * +1 votes: 3 (Matthias Wessendorf, Ant Elder, Ian Holsman) > * 0 votes: 0 > * -1 votes: 0 > > The vote passes. I wish to raise an objection - there are several 3rd party libraries in the binary re