William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >
> > I am very disappointed that no podlings took up your suggestion.
>
> I was too. It was "answered" by the status scoreboard, but that is not
> help to graduate, only a bunch of disassociated data. I don't disapprove
> of a status grid,
David Crossley wrote:
>
> I am very disappointed that no podlings took up your suggestion.
I was too. It was "answered" by the status scoreboard, but that is not
help to graduate, only a bunch of disassociated data. I don't disapprove
of a status grid, but it doesn't replace active management.
On Nov 21, 2008 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> I'd like to suggest a thread on general@ for each of those projects
> who believe they are close to graduation, but not sure what to do
> next. To kick off such a thread, email *me* with a summary (like
> you do for status reports) of where your proj
Yes,
And here is another angle; ALL projects will die, it is just a matter of
time.
Now, knowing that we need to deal with, and can't set out with the notion
that if we think it might whither it can't graduate, then I will need to
vote against all graduations.
So, IMHO, the "might die" criteria i
On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretaz wrote:
In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
listen to the community?
That's certainly good, but IMHO not really the key point as it doesn't
address the cas
Hey thrift folks,
Someone just pointed out
http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/download/
I'm afraid that's not exactly what we'd like to see. Can you
please spend some time reviewing the pages at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
? It would be really good if y'al
[I presume the three browns above are all one
in the same person.)
Yes - all me. :-) I believe they reflect my user name on the various
SVN repositories in which Pivot has resided (java.net, Google Code,
and now ASF).
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
> Scherler wrote:
>
>> How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
>> coding committers but how many other committers?
>
> 5 committers and PPMC Members in total, not counting 2 mentors.
gbrown
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 18:16 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
>> Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
>>> coding committers but how many other committers?
>> 5 committers and
I'm +1 as well. I fully respect Jukka's opinion, I'm just placing my own
line on the other side of the gray area (if that makes sense).
Matthieu
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> +1
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > Gang,
> >
> > Apache Pivot
In most discussions I hear (I think it is Roy's quote): "Not community
*over* code, but community *for* code"
Martijn
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2009/8/4 Thorsten Scherler :
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 18:16 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
>> Scherler wrote:
>>
>> > How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
>> > coding committers but how many other committers?
>>
>> 5 commit
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:23 +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote:
...
> > Bottom line: activity is hardly measurable since you can be active in
> > the community or in code or both. Being active on the ml is even more
> > important then committing code, or do we not always saying community
> > over code?
>
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 18:16 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
> Scherler wrote:
>
> > How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
> > coding committers but how many other committers?
>
> 5 committers and PPMC Members in total, not
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Thorsten
Scherler wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 10:48 +0100, ant elder wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>>
>> > I would suggest that anyone wishing to vote -1 on the graduation of
> a
>> > podling on grounds of diversity of code comm
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
Scherler wrote:
> How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
> coding committers but how many other committers?
5 committers and PPMC Members in total, not counting 2 mentors.
Cheers
--
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
htt
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 10:48 +0100, ant elder wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
>
> > I would suggest that anyone wishing to vote -1 on the graduation of
a
> > podling on grounds of diversity of code commits needs to back it up
> > with documented evidence that either a)
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> I would suggest that anyone wishing to vote -1 on the graduation of a
> podling on grounds of diversity of code commits needs to back it up
> with documented evidence that either a) the committers are not
> listening to the community or b) the
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Greg Brown wrote:
> It may be worth noting that Pivot is not technically a "VMware project".
> Todd and I work on Pivot on our own time. We just happen to work for the
> same company. :-)
That certainly helps with the diversity requirement. Even then I think
t
2009/8/4 Bertrand Delacretaz :
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>>> Sling explicitly waited until there were active committers from three
>>> independent backgrounds until asking for graduation.
>>>
>>> At the end of
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Bertrand
Delacretaz wrote:
> In such a case, the key point is, do the people who write the code
> listen to the community?
That's certainly good, but IMHO not really the key point as it doesn't
address the case when those people lose interest. A community that
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Bertrand
Delacretaz wrote:
> Taking Sling as an example again, the commit logs certainly show an
> overwhelming number of commits from Day employees, but if you look at
> the big picture it's clear that those committers are taking the
> community opinions into accou
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Sling explicitly waited until there were active committers from three
>> independent backgrounds until asking for graduation.
>>
>> At the end of the day it's the people who write the c
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