On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> There seems to be some concern in Commons that committers are a threat
> to the existing codebase.
I know the concerns you mention and felt them very much in the
discussion about JSch. But, at least for me personally, I don't think
that's
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Some projects are just too small to warrant the target of a TLP
>> or even a sub project
>
> We agree! We have several projects here that I believe belong in Commons!
May be. But please consider the following:
- Commons won't be able
Craig Russell wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>> Some projects are just too small to warrant the target of a TLP
>>> or even a sub project
>> We agree! We have several projects here that I believe belong in
>> Commons!
> For example, we have a great little project called
On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Torsten Curdt wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
That's code. What about community, Torsten? What is the
Community? It
has
been the Apache Commons as a collective, not sub-projects. Is
that to
change? We do not want Apache Commons to tu
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
> The primary obstacle to Commons using the normal Incubator practices is the
> community exit requirements. We feel that, due to the small size/scope of a
> Commons component, a podling graduating into Commons should be able to do so
> with
Torsten Curdt wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > That's code. What about community, Torsten? What is the Community? It
has
> > been the Apache Commons as a collective, not sub-projects. Is that to
> > change? We do not want Apache Commons to turn into an umbrella, right?
We
> > need to keep
I resent it because I didn't receive it when I sent it 3 hours earlier, but
this time it came through. So I checked the logs, and saw that it did make
it the first time, but not back to me.
No change from the earlier posting.
--- Noel
--
This past month, particularly recently, has been a bit less quiet than
usual. At the moment, nothing that warrants the Board's attention, although
there are a few matters that are getting the Incubator PMC's collective
attention, as it appears that we have a couple of projects where the
community
El lun, 13-04-2009 a las 18:29 +0200, Torsten Curdt escribió:
> No harsh feelings but I give up. You do not hear what I am saying.
>
I tend to agree with Niclas in this area, though the last exchanges you
had with Noel led me closer to understand the points we seem to be
missing. I guess we are u
Received 3 declarations of intent to -1 (vote not in progress yet) from IPMC
members so perhaps it's time to step back and talk about requirements since the
proposed solution seems to sit unfavorably with several people on this list.
Further commentary below:
--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Noel J. Berg
This past month, particularly recently, has been a bit less quiet than
usual. At the moment, nothing that warrants the Board's attention, although
there are a few matters that are getting the Incubator PMC's collective
attention, as it appears that we have a couple of projects where the
community
No harsh feelings but I give up. You do not hear what I am saying.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 14:32, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
>
>> Too often had the discussion at Commons whether this library needs to
>> go through incubation or not.
>
> That sho
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Matt Benson wrote:
Note: Resending due to my having neglected the [PROPOSAL] subject
line earlier.
==
Commons Incubator Proposal
ABSTRACT
The Commons Incubator would act as a "perpetual podling" or "mini-
Incubator" overseeing the in
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
> Too often had the discussion at Commons whether this library needs to
> go through incubation or not.
That should be the case;
1. IF there is a community --> Incubation.
2. IF there is no community --> IP Clearance.
With 2-4 *active* peo
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:15, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> And the person
>> should be considered more trustworthy than most with respect to making
>> patches, given that they are the contributors of the code in the first
>> place.
>
> Well,
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:15, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> My view, and I believe Torstens view is that to become a committer means
> to
>> join the dev lists, send in patches, be part of the community, gain trust
>> with the project members and then after a while be voted in as a
> committer.
>
> T
> web/lib/servlet-api.jar : It looks like you mention this under your
> notice file but I don' t see details about it's license.
I wasn't sure how to handle our external binary dependencies, so I
asked on our podling's dev@ list (http://tinyurl.com/djr37w). In the
case of this file, the answer se
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 04:34, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Well, the point is: we are talking about small libraries.
>
> That's code. What about community, Torsten? What is the Community? It has
> been the Apache Commons as a collective, not sub-projects. Is that to
> change? We do not want Ap
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