RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> My view, and I believe Torstens view is that to become a committer means to > join the dev lists, send in patches, be part of the community, gain trust > with the project members and then after a while be voted in as a committer. Trust related to what? Keep in mind that Committer != PMC member,

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Matt Benson wrote: > > The Commons Incubator would act as a "perpetual podling" or > > "mini-Incubator" overseeing the influx of components to be > > adopted into Apache Commons. > -1 (vote, not veto). -1 from me, at least for now, for the same reasons: > If Commons

RE: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Todd, > can one more PMC member please make sure the release looks ok? Please reply to Luciano's comments. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ge

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Well, the point is: we are talking about small libraries. That's code. What about community, Torsten? What is the Community? It has been the Apache Commons as a collective, not sub-projects. Is that to change? We do not want Apache Commons to turn into an umbrella, right? We need to keep

RE: Starting a new incubation

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > Now, the only thing missing for it to be perfect, in my book, > > is that it doesn't use maven to build... :) > I'm not a maven expert. There's a pom that currently does not work Par for the course. ;-) As long as it builds with Ant, people should be happy. --- Noel (reknowned Maven

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-12 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release > Apache Pivot 1.1. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation > Policy and with the endorsement of our mentors, we would now like to > request the permission of the I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: > >> You're insinuating too much here. Simply put the commons PMC would >> want to see committers in action before making them full blown Commons >> committers. This is no different

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Santiago Gala
El dom, 12-04-2009 a las 12:35 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Niall Pemberton > wrote: > > > You're insinuating too much here. Simply put the commons PMC would > > want to see committers in action before making them full blown Commons > > committers. This is no

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Santiago Gala
El sáb, 11-04-2009 a las 19:56 +1000, Gavin escribió: > > > -Original Message- > > From: tcu...@vafer.org [mailto:tcu...@vafer.org] On Behalf Of Torsten > > Curdt > > Sent: Saturday, 11 April 2009 7:26 PM > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator >

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-12 Thread Santiago Gala
El sáb, 11-04-2009 a las 20:35 +0100, Robert Burrell Donkin escribió: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Aidan Skinner > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner > >> wrote: > > > >> (Apache and RMS s

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-12 Thread Santiago Gala
El sáb, 11-04-2009 a las 11:28 +0200, Torsten Curdt escribió: > > I think this is a self-imposed constraint. > > Indeed it is. > > > Many other projects have no > > problem bringing in 'bulk' via IP Clearance and taking in one or two > > committers with it. > > Well, some do :) That's why now th