Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > You're insinuating too much here. Simply put the commons PMC would > want to see committers in action before making them full blown Commons > committers. This is no different from any of the other incubations > that then graduate into an e

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Incubator PMC Members; Please take a look at the Apache Pivot release candidate, so this very very active and healthy community can get on with it. Thanks Niclas On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release > Apache Piv

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: >> Well, the point is: we are  talking about small libraries. >> >> Imagine there is library X which was developed by only 2 developers. >> They want to bring this code to Commons. What

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 21:24, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Gavin wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: tcu...@vafer.org [mailto:tcu...@vafer.org] On Behalf Of Torsten > > > >>> The incubator approach just doesn't work well for projects that have a >

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > On 04/09/2009 02:13 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Chabot  wrote: >>> >>> Ps, Hans De Goede has a bit more experience with several distro's then me >>> and offered to help out too, i've adde

Re: Getting Apache [project] included in Linux distributions

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Aidan Skinner wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Aidan Skinner >> wrote: > >> (Apache and RMS saw Java a little differently: an opportunity as >> opposed to a trap. Apache has always b

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Gavin wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: tcu...@vafer.org [mailto:tcu...@vafer.org] On Behalf Of Torsten >> The incubator approach just doesn't work well for projects that have a >> very small scope and user base IMO. +1 the smaller the code base,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread gudnabrsam
--- On Sat, 4/11/09, Torsten Curdt wrote: > From: Torsten Curdt > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 5:44 AM > > My view, and I believe Torstens > view is that to become a committer means to > > join the dev lists, sen

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Torsten Curdt
> My view, and I believe Torstens view is that to become a committer means to > join the dev lists, send in patches, be part of the community, gain trust > with the project members and then after a while be voted in as a committer. > Now if someone has a nice great big chunk of code, or even a whol

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Gavin
> -Original Message- > From: tcu...@vafer.org [mailto:tcu...@vafer.org] On Behalf Of Torsten > Curdt > Sent: Saturday, 11 April 2009 7:26 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:22, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Fri

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Torsten Curdt
> I think this is a self-imposed constraint. Indeed it is. > Many other projects have no > problem bringing in 'bulk' via IP Clearance and taking in one or two > committers with it. Well, some do :) That's why now there is the proposal I guess ;) cheers -- Torsten -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Torsten Curdt
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:22, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: >> Well, the point is: we are  talking about small libraries. >> >> Imagine there is library X which was developed by only 2 developers. >> They want to bring this code to Commons. What to

Buildbot at Apache, and a new Builds mailing list.

2009-04-11 Thread Gavin
Hi All, This is a heads-up that Buildbot CI server is now available for projects use. Some projects that have been used for testing Buildbot here at the ASF can be seen at http://ci.apache.org. I have a development installation at http://build01.16degrees.com.au:8020/waterfall where I have b

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > The current state of affairs makes it highly impractical for any codebase > that includes IP from a non-ASF-committer to enter Apache Commons. I think this is a self-imposed constraint. Many other projects have no problem bringing in 'bulk'

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-11 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: > Well, the point is: we are  talking about small libraries. > > Imagine there is library X which was developed by only 2 developers. > They want to bring this code to Commons. What to do? IP clearance is > one thing. But what about the 2 devel