Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, > and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to > call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or > contributo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Just two concerns... "The project already uses core libraries from the Apache WS project including Apache Axis2/Java, Rampart and Sandesha2. In addition, the PHP, Perl, and Python versions use the Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to develop versions that u

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: 4. running continuous integration on shore may require licenses. it's important that contributors understand this and don't just start diving in. it may be better to start off shore. As a US based Deleware 501(c)3 that wouldn't protect u

RE: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Drew Baird (Volt)
+1 Drew From: Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:41 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, and we now hav

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Garrett Rooney wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. >>> I'm presuming there was not a dev@ vote yet by the Abdera community itself? >>> If not, could you please call that vote ASAP in par

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Garrett Rooney wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. >>> I'm presuming there was not a dev@ vote yet by the Abdera community itself? >>> If not, could you please call that vote ASAP in parallel with the general@ >>> vote? Monday evening is n

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Garrett Rooney wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. >> I'm presuming there was not a dev@ vote yet by the Abdera community itself? >> If not, could you please call that vote ASAP in parallel with the general@ >> vote? Monday evening is not to late to put this on the boar

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Querna
Garrett Rooney wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: The discussion included determining the list of people to put on the final PMC list. The actual list of Abdera committers was larger, but many of them had not participa

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Just two concerns... "The project already uses core libraries from the Apache WS project including Apache Axis2/Java, Rampart and Sandesha2. In addition, the PHP, Perl, and Python versions use the Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to develop versions that utilize at least the Apache CXF

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Garrett Rooney wrote: >> >> The discussion included determining the list of people to put on the >> final PMC list. The actual list of Abdera committers was larger, but >> many of them had not participated in the p

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Fremantle wrote: > > Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling. +1 (of course no justification is required for a -1, since such votes cannot be vetoed. Not to say that justifications aren't nice to have :) -

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Garrett Rooney wrote: > > The discussion included determining the list of people to put on the > final PMC list. The actual list of Abdera committers was larger, but > many of them had not participated in the project in some time or at > all, or had explicitly left the project. Since I didn't wa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > 4. running continuous integration on shore may require licenses. it's > important that contributors understand this and don't just start > diving in. it may be better to start off shore. As a US based Deleware 501(c)3 that wouldn't protect us. As far as continuou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...The full proposal is here: >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. > > That says "future contributions could depend on proprietary systems > such as Microsoft .Net or c

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1. Paul Fremantle wrote: The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal A

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Querna
Garrett Rooney wrote: After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the long incubation process (started in May 2006!), but I think the Abdera c

RE: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Kamaljit Bath
+1 Kamal -Original Message- From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:51 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator +1 Niall On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, > and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to > call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or >

Re: [REPORTS] missing: Abdera BlueSky Buildr Droids Hama JSecurity Lokahi Olio PDFBox PhotArk Tashi VCL WSRP4J XAP

2008-11-13 Thread Assaf Arkin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please add your reports at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2008 Real Soon. Buildr report added, sorry for the delay. Assaf > > -Bertrand > > -

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the > lo

Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-13 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list > that Qpid > would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt > that the > Qpid project should increase its

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling... +1 -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional c

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the > long incubati

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The proposal is here: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal > > And also included at the end: > > Please vote +1 to accept, or -1 with reasons to not accept as a podling. +1. -- justin -

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Bruce Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Garrett Rooney > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private >> list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose >>

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Bruce Snyder
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the > long incubati

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Luciano Resende
+1 (non-binding) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 > > Craig > > On Nov 13, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: > >> After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private >> list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Glen Daniels
Paul Fremantle wrote: The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Nov 13, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the long incubation process (starte

[VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
The Stonehenge proposal has been around for discussion for a while, and we now have a wide set of contributors and mentors, so I'd like to call a vote. I know there are some other potential mentors and or contributors still considering getting involved, but the normal Apache process of course allow

Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Shane Isbell
The vote was among the NMaven PPMC. Is it required to have an additional IPMC vote or can we just start wrapping it up, letting the developer community know the next steps? Thanks, Shane On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 13-Nov-08, at 2:23 AM, Nicla

Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 13-Nov-08, at 2:16 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Depends on what "take it out of the incubator" means: - graduation to TLP - graduation to sub project - stop incubation altogether and possibly continue elsewhere Take it out of the incubator and Apache all together. Graduation is covered i

RE: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Michael Champion
I'd also point out that there are free SDKs and Express versions of most of the Microsoft development tools [1], targeted at non-commercial developers. See [2] for a neutral discussion of what has been left out of the Express editions. So, while these tools are not open source, there are no ba

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the +1. Yoav ---

Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 13-Nov-08, at 2:23 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Jason Van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator? We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC members voted to d

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Paul Fremantle
Robert Excellent points: >>> ...The full proposal is here: >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. >> >> That says "future contributions could depend on proprietary systems >> such as Microsoft .Net or commercial JEE servers", which IIUC means >> that some parts of Stonehenge mi

Re: OpenWebBeans status page (Was: svn commit: r711682)

2008-11-13 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Thanks a lot On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SVN is not setting now. But you can download all the sources from the > sourceforge side [1] for the time being. > > [1] http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. > > GE > > 2008/11/1

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why wasn't this done on dev@ (especially the vote)? The Apache Way(tm) >> suggests that these decisions should be done in public (a quick poll >> on private@ is not a problem) > > The discussion included determining the l

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the long incubation process (started in Ma

Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-13 Thread Carl Trieloff
Jim Jagielski wrote: +1 ! (PS: Please add Email addresses to the Resolution). ack, will do so before I submit it to the board. many thanks Carl. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [

Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 ! (PS: Please add Email addresses to the Resolution). On Nov 12, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list that Qpid would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt that the Qpid project

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Garrett Rooney > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private >> list > > Why wasn't this done on dev@ (especially the vote)? The Apache

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list Why wasn't this done on dev@ (especially the vote)? The Apache Way(tm) suggests that these decisions should be done in public (a quick poll on priva

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Thursday 13 November 2008 8:59:05 am Garrett Rooney wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the > long incubation

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...So please vote away. A +1 vote is for sending the following motion to > the board for its approval +1, congrats! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose > that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the > long incubati

[VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Garrett Rooney
After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the long incubation process (started in May 2006!), but I think the Abdera community, while small, i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 11/12/08, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...The full proposal is here: >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StonehengeProposal.. > > That says "future contributions could depend on proprietary systems

Re: OpenWebBeans status page (Was: svn commit: r711682)

2008-11-13 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
SVN is not setting now. But you can download all the sources from the sourceforge side [1] for the time being. [1] http://bigfaces.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bigfaces/webbeansimpl/. GE 2008/11/13 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi I am interested to access the src code of OpenWenBean

Re: [OpenWebBeans] request for mailing lists and SVN

2008-11-13 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
We really need for these stuffs to efficiently continue on the development. There are some great open source developers to work on the project, but I want that setting up all artifacts of the project in the Apache side, svn, jira, mailing lists etc is done before this. I think that discussions mus

Re: Missing project reports

2008-11-13 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following reports are missing from the wiki page [1]: Hmm, I somehow missed the thread already started by Bertrand. So please ignore this and use Bertrand's thread instead. BR, Jukka Zitting ---

Re: OpenWebBeans status page (Was: svn commit: r711682)

2008-11-13 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi I am interested to access the src code of OpenWenBeans. But the svn repo is not working yet. When it is going to be avail ? On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How will we progress on this? As a committer can I produce these pages? Or > mentors of the pr

Missing project reports

2008-11-13 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, The following reports are missing from the wiki page [1]: BlueSky Buildr Droids Lokahi Olio Tashi VCL WSRP4J XAP [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2008 BR, Jukka Zitting - To

Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
Do we have an official process for dissolving a project in the incubator? We had a vote amongst the IPMC members for NMaven yesterday and 3/4 IPMC members voted to dissolve the NMaven project and take it out of the incubator. Is there any official process or do we just update the document

Re: OpenWebBeans status page (Was: svn commit: r711682)

2008-11-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
you can produce them and upload them to a jira ticket. I doubt that you have write access on the page On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How will we progress on this? As a committer can I produce these pages? Or > mentors of the project should do? > > Tha

Re: OpenWebBeans status page (Was: svn commit: r711682)

2008-11-13 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
How will we progress on this? As a committer can I produce these pages? Or mentors of the project should do? Thanks; Gurkan 2008/11/6 David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Author: kevan > > Date: Wed Nov 5 12:14:38 2008 > > New Revision: 711682 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=71

Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list > that Qpid > would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt > that the > Qpid project should increase its diversi