RE: "Binding" term

2008-01-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> and only the PPMC member votes are binding. The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. --- Noel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Jan 29, 2008 2:44 AM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry I didn't post in response to your original mail - I was in the > middle of a laptop failure (now recovered with no harm done). > > I'm certainly in favour of this as a project. My main concern is that it > is already relatively

Re: [VOTE] Please approve Tuscany SCA Java 1.1-incubating release (RC3a)

2008-01-30 Thread Kevan Miller
+1 I scanned the RAT output, eyeballed the license and notice files, and cracked open some of the binaries. All looked good. Nice job. --kevan On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Simon Laws wrote: Hi, The previous VOTE thread here for SCA Java 1.1-incubating identified some issues. http://w

Re: Automated Release Audit Reports [Re: Release Audit Report 2008-01-29]

2008-01-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 30.01.2008, at 21:29, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: you probably have noticed a number of emailed audit reports (see below). i've been doing some testing (apologies for the SPAM) but think that everything's working ok now. 1. frequency: weekly? biweekly? monthly? Maximum one per week I'd sa

Re: Automated Release Audit Reports [Re: Release Audit Report 2008-01-29]

2008-01-30 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Jan 30, 2008 10:29 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. web page: too concise? too verbose? The repeating directory path in the " in " list items could be avoided by grouping the list of files by directory. Added in /www/archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/cxf/2.0.4-i

Re: Automated Release Audit Reports [Re: Release Audit Report 2008-01-29]

2008-01-30 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Jan 30, 2008 10:29 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you probably have noticed a number of emailed audit reports (see > below). i've been doing some testing (apologies for the SPAM) but > think that everything's working ok now. > > 1. frequency: weekly? biweekly? monthl

Re: "Binding" term

2008-01-30 Thread Carl Trieloff
Craig L Russell wrote: I think it's confusing people to use the term "binding" in different contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC. In pa

Automated Release Audit Reports [Re: Release Audit Report 2008-01-29]

2008-01-30 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
you probably have noticed a number of emailed audit reports (see below). i've been doing some testing (apologies for the SPAM) but think that everything's working ok now. 1. frequency: weekly? biweekly? monthly? 2. format: too long? too short? 3. web page: too concise? too verbose? opinions appre

"Binding" term

2008-01-30 Thread Craig L Russell
I think it's confusing people to use the term "binding" in different contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC. In particular, the followi

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Perhaps in the interest of code audit (which needs to be done) and community building, the code parts of the missing committers should be removed from the code drop prior to incubation start, and be re-introduced inside the incubating podling by providing patches through bugzilla? Martijn On 1/30/

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread David Reiss
If there are people who have already proven their *merit* on the project that are not included on the initial list of committers then I think they should be. > In reality, many parts of the Thrift code base are already entirely > owned by non-Facebook entities. The Cocoa, C#, Perl, and Smallt

Re: [Thrift] RE: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Upayavira
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 11:50 -0500, Ben Maurer wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Upayavira wrote: > > As you can see from other proposals, I think you'll find it work better > > with a single committer pool. As others have said, I personally have > > never seen a problem with this approach - people ste

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 2:24 AM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What we'd really like to set up here is a system where there are different people with committer priveleges to different parts of the project. I'm not a huge fan of this, but I love the rest of the proposal, so +

Re: [VOTE] Approve release CXF 2.0.4-incubator

2008-01-30 Thread sebb
The CXF build fails several tests. Environment: Maven version: 2.0.8 Java version: 1.5.0_13 OS name: "windows xp" version: "5.1" arch: "x86" Family: "windows" Log file: http://people.apache.org/~sebb/CXF On 30/01/2008, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are several problems with the NOTIC

Re: [Thrift] RE: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Ben Maurer
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Upayavira wrote: As you can see from other proposals, I think you'll find it work better with a single committer pool. As others have said, I personally have never seen a problem with this approach - people steer away from code that they are unfamiliar with, or tend to ask pe

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Jan 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: "Mark Slee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anyone have feedback? If no objections are voiced, when would it be appropriate for us to move forward with a VOTE thread on this? Sorry for not responding. I flagged the email when I first saw it but did

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Mark Slee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone have feedback? If no objections are voiced, when would it be > appropriate for us to move forward with a VOTE thread on this? Sorry for not responding. I flagged the email when I first saw it but didn't have time to respond. Overall the proposal

Re: [VOTE] Approve release CXF 2.0.4-incubator

2008-01-30 Thread sebb
There are several problems with the NOTICE and LICENSE files. The NOTICE file should only pertain to artefacts actually included in distribution; it should not have any details of transitive dependencies. So the "/uses" text should be removed. The line This product includes/uses software(s) deve

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Jan 30, 2008 2:24 AM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What we'd really > like to set up here is a system where there are different people with > committer priveleges to different parts of the project. I'm not a huge fan of this, but I love the rest of the proposal, so +1 to it! I'm also

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Jan 30, 2008 7:24 AM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > *If I look at the initial committers list, I see a big portion to be > facebook developers. During incubation you should work on diversifying.* > > *Again, it seems like a huge contingent of facebook developers. You > re

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 19:30, Erik Abele wrote: > In the end they are here to learn The A Way and if it turns out to be   > a problem then they won't be able to graduate so I think it's   > premature to turn down the proposal just because of this. Correct, but putting it in place increases t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 30.01.2008, at 10:35, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 30 January 2008 15:24, Mark Slee wrote: What we'd really like to set up here is a system where there are different people with committer priveleges to different parts of the project. Hmmm... I would oppose this for two reasons; 1.

Re: [VOTE] Approve release CXF 2.0.4-incubator

2008-01-30 Thread ant elder
The policy page says: "Therefore, should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, the Podling SHALL hold a vote on the Podling's public -dev list. At least three +1 votes are required (see the Apache Voting Process page), and only the PPMC member votes are binding. If the majority of all v

Re: [Thrift] RE: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Upayavira
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 23:24 -0800, Mark Slee wrote: > Hi Martin, > > *If I look at the initial committers list, I see a big portion to be > facebook developers. During incubation you should work on diversifying.* > > *Again, it seems like a huge contingent of facebook developers. You > really sh

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Fremantle
Niclas I also had exactly the same thoughts on reading the email. I think learning that committership is a position of trust is a key part of the incubation process. So I'm +1 on the proposal, but I would definitely be -1 on graduation if such a scheme were to be implemented during incubation. P

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
Niclas Hedhman schrieb: > On Wednesday 30 January 2008 15:24, Mark Slee wrote: > >> What we'd really >> like to set up here is a system where there are different people with >> committer priveleges to different parts of the project. >> > > Hmmm... I would oppose this for two reasons; > > 1

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 15:24, Mark Slee wrote: > What we'd really > like to set up here is a system where there are different people with > committer priveleges to different parts of the project. Hmmm... I would oppose this for two reasons; 1. Creating boundaries within a project, yet coll

Re: Business Framework Project

2008-01-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 01:42, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > I did what I think is appropriate, but I think there would be a need for > further review by someone else. Some cases that I'm sure might need > extra attention would be: > 1. I'm using GPL javascript html-editor (Tiny MCE). As far as I can

Re: [DISCUSS] PDFBox proposal

2008-01-30 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Jan 29, 2008 11:20 PM, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be happy to be a mentor for PDFBox - not done mentoring before > so if you can get someone more experienced then I'll bow out no > problem. Also I also haven't used PDFBox or even looked at it, but I > am interested