Re: Board Meetings Schedule for Nov/Dev 2007 ?

2007-09-06 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 9/6/07, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where can I get the schedule for the Board Meetings for Nov/Dec 2007 ? > This page [1] only have approved minutes from previous meetings... Board meetings have a fixed schedule, on the third Wednesday of every month. They sometimes get res

Board Meetings Schedule for Nov/Dev 2007 ?

2007-09-06 Thread Luciano Resende
Where can I get the schedule for the Board Meetings for Nov/Dec 2007 ? This page [1] only have approved minutes from previous meetings... [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogs

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Gwyn Evans
On Thursday, September 6, 2007, 6:18:42 PM, Janne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6 Sep 2007, at 17:20, Gwyn Evans wrote: >> While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm >> not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The >> 3rd-party licencing policy at h

Re: Blue Sky Distance Collaboration System_Proposal Draft

2007-09-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
t.peng.dev wrote: > Ok, according to prior meeting of our team, we prefer Apache license. In that case... > Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> On Friday 31 August 2007 09:50, t.peng.dev wrote: >> >>> BSDCS depends on API provided by FFMpeg, it use GPL. >> >> This is probably a big issue, and you will mos

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/6/07, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/6/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/6/07, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm > > > not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
Is there a roadmap for when JSPWiki will have all of the features and functionality of both Confluence and MoinMoin, including the Confluence macros we use, and the migration tools so that we can move all the existing data from these existing wikis to JSPWiki? Without that, I don't see us re

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
On 6 Sep 2007, at 17:20, Gwyn Evans wrote: While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The 3rd-party licencing policy at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html redirects to the draft at http://people.apache.

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 9/6/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/6/07, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm > > not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The > > 3rd-party licencing policy at http://www.ap

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 9/6/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/6/07, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm > > not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The > > 3rd-party licencing policy at http://www.apac

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/6/07, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm > not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The > 3rd-party licencing policy at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html > redirects to the draft at http://pe

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
Well, let me put it this way: it would be kinda dumb to run our public wiki site on another wiki engine. ;-) Dumb? So we must already be dumb, then, to be running other things like JVMs that don't come from the ASF, rather than our own. Nonono, what I meant was that it would be odd to have

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Gwyn Evans
While agreeing that it's something that needs looking at closely, I'm not I'm not sure it's downbeat as I think you're suggesting. The 3rd-party licencing policy at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html redirects to the draft at http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html, but that suggests that,

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper
I'm concerned about all of the 3rd party dependencies that use quite a variety of other licenses. The relicensing page says "Category B: Keep" for many of these. I'm not clear on where the "Category B" part comes from, but I don't believe that some of these can be kept. Some of the licenses, such a

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/6/07, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do you mean? Apache does not have needed lower level projects to > > run JSPWiki? > > How about Tomcat+Harmony? > > Well, let me put it this way: it would be kinda dumb to run our > public wiki site on another wiki engine. ;-) Dumb?

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 06 September 2007 17:56, Janne Jalkanen wrote: > We are tracking the progress here: > > http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/ApacheRelicensing I think this is excellent and shows that you are on top of things. +1 to bring JSPWiki to incubation at ASF. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Deve

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 9/6/07, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...So, any advice on this matter?... In my (totally non-lawyer) opinion, the cleanest way to change the JSPWiki code to the Apache License might be for the project to release an Apac

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Alexey Petrenko
Yep, I got your point. I've personally thought about possibility for users to run JSPWiki on full Apache stack. This could be nice out-of-the-box bundle: JSPWiki+Tomcat+Harmony SY, Alexey 2007/9/6, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What do you mean? Apache does not have needed lower level

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
In my (totally non-lawyer) opinion, the cleanest way to change the JSPWiki code to the Apache License might be for the project to release an Apache License version of their code, before coming to the Incubator, using their existing release channels. This would mean that the existing community has

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
What do you mean? Apache does not have needed lower level projects to run JSPWiki? How about Tomcat+Harmony? Well, let me put it this way: it would be kinda dumb to run our public wiki site on another wiki engine. ;-) We also have separate documentation and sandbox wikis. http://www.jspwiki

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Alexey Petrenko
2007/9/4, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Big +1 on JSPWiki. I've been a fan for years of the software and the > community that drives it forward. There may be some issues with > getting the JSPWiki web application up and running on Apache > infrastructure, which will be necessary for this effort What

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 9/6/07, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...So, any advice on this matter?... In my (totally non-lawyer) opinion, the cleanest way to change the JSPWiki code to the Apache License might be for the project to release an Apache License version of their code, before coming to the Incub

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-06 Thread Janne Jalkanen
IANAL, but I am pretty sure you are right. However, I think there is an issue on "how simple is simple?". It seems common to talk about 10 lines of code are not infringements, but then noone give any hint of an upper limit. I think it would be good if it could be documented somehow, to get a