On Nov 9, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Don Brown wrote:
Where should it be documented? I set up Confluence exactly like the
other JIRA installations using the same directory structures, startup
scripts, tomcat setup, and logging policies. If it is a matter of not
enough volunteers to administrate it, let
Where should it be documented? I set up Confluence exactly like the
other JIRA installations using the same directory structures, startup
scripts, tomcat setup, and logging policies. If it is a matter of not
enough volunteers to administrate it, let me know and I'll get a few
other people. I'm
On 11/9/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When infrastructure votes to maintain it for as long as the
projects wish to use it, then it is infrastructure. Right now,
Confluence is just an experiment and we made that abundantly clear.
The first two people who promised to maintain it d
On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Don Brown wrote:
What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF
infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had
volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is
indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure since
On 11/6/06, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We're working on setting up the UIMA project, and I'd be interested in
hearing opinions from the community about the pros/cons of the different
approaches (perhaps there even are others in use at Apache?).
Thanks for the post Marshall. I've
On 11/9/06, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
One of the tasks suggested in the welcome-to-apache was to set up a
public/private key pair for signing in (instead of using a password).
Another task in the new-committers info page suggested creating a key
for your apache.org address now.
One of the tasks suggested in the welcome-to-apache was to set up a
public/private key pair for signing in (instead of using a password).
Another task in the new-committers info page suggested creating a key
for your apache.org address now. It referred to "Henk's Apache home
page" for info -
On 11/9/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF
infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had
volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is
indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure sin
On 11/9/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF
infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had
volunteered to maintain it
This is something I was wondering about as this thread developed, and while
I think I agr
Been there for a few weeks, now...
/Gwyn
On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You will not know till you try volunteering right? (subscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
-- dims
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
On 09/11/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work
> on documentation"
> -> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch
> -> Still waiting
Personally,
What exactly makes something a part of the "official" ASF
infrastructure? I thought it was that a member of Infrastructure had
volunteered to maintain it, and if that's the case, Confluence is
indeed a part of the "official" ASF infrastructure since I, as a
member of ASF and Infrastructure, have
You will not know till you try volunteering right? (subscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
-- dims
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eelco,
>
> Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with
> infra always pu
And if you are going with confluence, you may as well help our infra
maintain its confluence :) instead of a brand new install somewhere
else :) :)
-- dims
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 09/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Allow me to make this clear.
On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Eelco,
Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with
infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal
group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But
when the time comes, they ar
On 09/11/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF
> infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very
> few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces
> that they actually prefer a wiki that
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional
> organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable
and
> maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) cam
On 09/11/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF
infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very
few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces
that they actually prefer a wiki that goes do
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work
on documentation"
-> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch
-> Still waiting
Personally, I'm not willing to start documenting our offering of such
a se
On 11/9/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
'If the cwiki maintainers
want to fix those things, they'll get fixed.' doesn't give a lot of
confidence that Apache as an organization takes the responsibility one
would expect from an organization with it's stature.
One can't expect a hig
Allow me to make this clear. Confluence is not part of the ASF
infrastructure. We made a machine available for it because a very
few people are so used to badly designed Java servlet interfaces
that they actually prefer a wiki that goes down on a regular basis,
and those people promised to do al
Eelco,
Here's the background: The current set of volunteers dealing with
infra always pushed back on a confluence install. *But* a very vocal
group demanded that it be installed and promised to maintain it. But
when the time comes, they are not there. So who is at fault?
All infra folks come fro
On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional
organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a
stable and
maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) came here from sf.net.
things used to
go down there all the time
On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
this is not a kind of attitude i would expect from a professional
organization. a big part of joining apache is the desire for a stable and
maintained infrastructure. we (wicket) came here from sf.net. things used to
go down there all the time
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist - Point 2 "Work
on documentation"
-> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-998 with patch
-> Still waiting
/Gwyn
On 09/11/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the i
On 11/9/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the infra
mailing list and help out where you can.
I don't think that's the point though. Maybe it sounded a bit rough,
but I agree with Igor that a remark like 'If the cwiki maintain
On 09/11/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Conspiracy or cock-up? Is this a case of 'not-invented-here', a
> objection to the use of non-Apache-licenced software or just a
> misunderstanding - it's hard to believe anyone would put
Please turn your rant into something constructive. join the infra
mailing list and help out where you can.
-- dims
On 11/9/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On the original subject, CWiki does seem to be partially 'hidden' a
On 11/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the original subject, CWiki does seem to be partially 'hidden' at
> Apache - I've tried to help, in terms of a patch to add it to the list
> of services documented at http://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#wiki
> (still waiting to be lo
On 11/9/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Conspiracy or cock-up? Is this a case of 'not-invented-here', a
objection to the use of non-Apache-licenced software or just a
misunderstanding - it's hard to believe anyone would put in a Wiki
without ensuring it's data is automatically backed
On 09/11/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/6/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For purely philosophical reasons I think moin-moin is the way to go for
> a wiki. It is a truly open-source wiki. Confluence is a commercial
> product
FWIW, until recently, the Co
On 11/6/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For purely philosophical reasons I think moin-moin is the way to go for
a wiki. It is a truly open-source wiki. Confluence is a commercial
product
FWIW, until recently, the Confluence install has been largely
unmaintained. MoinMoin is fu
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