Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Craig L Russell wrote: > It seems to me that there is no reason for the PPMC to be official, > since they have no power to actually release anything (which puts Apache > at legal risk). It's the Incubator PMC that authorizes releases. > > "All the PPMC does" is to exercise podling oversight, which

Account request for Ignacio Silva-Lepe

2006-10-10 Thread Jim Marino
Could an account please be created for Ignacio, as he has been voted a committer? 12 +1s No -1s. http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg08554.html Preferred userid: 1) isilval Full name: Ignacio Silva-Lepe Forwarding email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requested Karma for: ws

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread Craig L Russell
It seems to me that there is no reason for the PPMC to be official, since they have no power to actually release anything (which puts Apache at legal risk). It's the Incubator PMC that authorizes releases. "All the PPMC does" is to exercise podling oversight, which should not legally encumb

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/10/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Jean, >> >> Your suggestion looks sound to me. > > +1 > >> > Some clarifications are needed on the PPMC page, including: >> > - the PPMC has no legal standing, so no need for

Re: [VOTE] approve the 4.0.2 (RC4) release of ActiveMQ

2006-10-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/10/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 9, 2006, at 2:59 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > the source distributions unpacks to the same directory as the binary. > this is inconvenient for users. it's better to unpack the source to > incubator-activemq-4.0.2-src. I disagre

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread Jean T. Anderson
> On 10/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Jean, >> >> Your suggestion looks sound to me. > > +1 > >> > Some clarifications are needed on the PPMC page, including: >> > - the PPMC has no legal standing, so no need for board notification > > i'm not sure about this. roy seems v

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Oct 10, 2006, at 4:20 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: in practice i think that the PPMC will become the PMC. Sans the mentors who signed up to help with incubation, but no intent to participate in project development. Andrus --

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/10/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jean, Your suggestion looks sound to me. +1 > Some clarifications are needed on the PPMC page, including: > - the PPMC has no legal standing, so no need for board notification i'm not sure about this. roy seems very convinced that

Re: [VOTE] approve the 4.0.2 (RC4) release of ActiveMQ

2006-10-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 9, 2006, at 2:59 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: the source distributions unpacks to the same directory as the binary. this is inconvenient for users. it's better to unpack the source to incubator-activemq-4.0.2-src. I disagree with that. Usually, a source distribution should be the en

Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant

2006-10-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
+1 Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question about mixed source documentation

2006-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: > By contributing the documentation, you are assigning an non-exclusive, > non-revocable copywrite to that version of the material. Essentially correct, but did you mean "copyright license" :? But yes - not exclusive - you can republish _your_ own contributions under different l

Re: [doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jean, Your suggestion looks sound to me. Craig On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Given recent PPMC discussions on general@, it has been on my mind to add a section titled "Voting in a new PPMC member" to http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html Brian McCallister

[doc] "How to add a PPMC member"

2006-10-10 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Given recent PPMC discussions on general@, it has been on my mind to add a section titled "Voting in a new PPMC member" to http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html Brian McCallister and I chatted about this at the hackathon. Since having a PPMC is instructional, we think that it would be helpf

Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 10/10/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/10/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) we log the chats to the dev list (yes I know we always did) > 2) If we have any proposals in the chats we explicitly send these out > as separate notes and follow up in email to m

Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
Justin I understand your concerns. However, we have switched our model, based on feedback from the Incubator PMC, and for *our* project, it has been negative rather than positive. I'm not trying to make a general point, as I only have one data point. I don't believe we've ever had the problems y

Re: Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 10/10/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I'd urge against IRC chats, but if you're careful, it can work. -- justin I agree with Justin's concerns. That said, I've seen carefully planned and executed IRC chats work very well. That includes having an agenda and to limit u

Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread Johan Compagner
IRC works fine for the cases we use it. It is direct feedback that is really wanted in discussions. And ofcourse when a code/design thing is discussed the list is also asked for it what they think. i personally can't, or not happy to, do without it. I know what will happen if we didn't use irc w

Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 10/10/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) we log the chats to the dev list (yes I know we always did) 2) If we have any proposals in the chats we explicitly send these out as separate notes and follow up in email to make any decisions. In other words the IRC chats are not formal d

IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Fremantle
Folks I've been revisiting the decision to stop having IRC chats. We did this, partially based on feedback from the Incubator PMC that felt perhaps that the chats were leading to a lack of fair discussion on the email list. However, I have personally noticed that the community is less vibrant wi

Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant

2006-10-10 Thread Yonik Seeley
+1 -Yonik On 10/9/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since there hasn't been any significant work on Lucene4c in quite some time, I'd like to officially mark it as dormant so I don't have to keep writing board reports that just say "there has been no progress in the last 3 months".

Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant

2006-10-10 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 10/10/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote: > Since there hasn't been any significant work on Lucene4c in quite some > time, I'd like to officially mark it as dormant so I don't have to > keep writing board reports that just say "there has

Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant

2006-10-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote: Since there hasn't been any significant work on Lucene4c in quite some time, I'd like to officially mark it as dormant so I don't have to keep writing board reports that just say "there has been no progress in the last 3 months". does "I" here m

Re: Question about mixed source documentation

2006-10-10 Thread Leo Simons
Hi Eric, From the ASF point of view, it is your responsibility to ensure you can contribute the thing you're contributing (under CLA and/or CCLA). From your employer's point of view, this is probably a good question to ask your lawyer / legal people. Basically you need to make sure there

Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant

2006-10-10 Thread Erik Hatcher
George, I presume "Eric" is referring to :) The incubator e-mail list isn't the appropriate forum for the Lucene website topic, so let's take that offline after this message. I'm copying the Lucene PMC so they can provide you and I with details on generating the Lucene site, as I'm in th

RE: [VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release

2006-10-10 Thread Mosur Ravi, Balaji
Thanks... I have now fixed all the files in our distribution. Can we start the Vote again for releasing yoko milestone 1 release? Yoko release: http://people.apache.org/~bravi - Balaji -Original Message- From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 200