Re: What about Mime4J?

2006-09-13 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 14 September 2006 01:45, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I am curious to know how did Mime4J go from SourceForge to the > > Apache James project, and apparently not passing the Incubator?? > > It is a gray area, but when it was discussed the consensus was that it was > the work of ASF Commit

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Sep 13 23:52:50 2006

2006-09-13 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project >> that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases >> policy. doing this is much easier and quicker than creating a prop

Re: Graduating a part of an incubating project into an existing TLP

2006-09-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: however IMO the IP clearance document should still be created and committed so that it's easy to track the origins of the code. questions about provinence can sometimes be raised years later and it has sometimes proved difficult to trac

Re: What about Mime4J?

2006-09-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/13/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is a gray area, but when it was discussed the consensus was that it was the work of ASF Committers and being brought into the JAMES community as a separate codebase, but within a single community of Committers, not a separate project or su

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases policy. doing this is much easier and quicker than creating a proper release. just nominate a releas

Re: Re: [VOTE] Publish Lokahi M01

2006-09-13 Thread drtobes
On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the source license headers are good enough for me now (i'd would like build.properties and build.xml to have license headers) Noted, I'll update svn tonight before I forget. it would probably be a good idea to document the build pr

Re: Re: [VOTE] Publish Lokahi M01

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Steve Toback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have updated the release with the appropriate copyright notifications: http://people.apache.org/~toback/lokahi-incubating-M01.tar.gz http://people.apache.org/~toback/lokahi-incubating-M01.tar.gz.asc Md5: 05b2cbccb974e7cd67afa3efa9000b41

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > since we started checking releases in detail, it's become clear that > most projects struggle to create a compliant release at the first > attempt. nearly every first attempt c

Re: Re: [VOTE] Publish Lokahi M01

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Toback
We have updated the release with the appropriate copyright notifications: http://people.apache.org/~toback/lokahi-incubating-M01.tar.gz http://people.apache.org/~toback/lokahi-incubating-M01.tar.gz.asc Md5: 05b2cbccb974e7cd67afa3efa9000b41 Please vote to release this in it's current form. Th

Re: Podling Release Requirement

2006-09-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:05:08PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > So the real question, in my view, is whether or not they demonstrate an > awareness that there ARE issues, and that they may CHANGE, and are being > RESPONSIBLE about making sure that what they do is in compliance with ASF > policy

RE: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > IMO the question is not about performing a release (which is high > ceremony) but about knowing how to perform a release that complies > with ASF policy. And, as I noted in my Felix-specific reply, over the past few years, we have changed licensing, copyright notic

RE: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-09-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > i do not believe that having made a release should be a requirement. I agree. And it would be somewhat ironic to make that a requirement, although I do understand the reasons behind the assertions made by those who are concerned. Looking at Felix, I see Alex, Upay

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 9/13/06, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: > On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is

RE: What about Mime4J?

2006-09-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I am curious to know how did Mime4J go from SourceForge to the > Apache James project, and apparently not passing the Incubator?? It is a gray area, but when it was discussed the consensus was that it was the work of ASF Committers and being brought into the JAMES community as a separate codebas

Re: [PROPOSAL] UIMA (Unstructured Information Management Architecture) Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Marshall Schor
Hello, everyone. In conjunction with our proposal to Apache for the UIMA framework, we have submitted a Charter to develop a community based standard for the UIMA Specification (not implementation) to OASIS (www.oasis-open.org). OASIS is a standards development organization with a good track

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation >> criteria. And >> (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: > On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. >> And >> > (hopefully) with Upayv

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Alex Karasulu
J Aaron Farr wrote: On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. And > (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried that the > PMC wi

Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. And > (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried that the > PMC will overlook release req

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-09-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. And (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried that the PMC will overlook release requir

Re: Graduating a part of an incubating project into an existing TLP

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/12/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/12/06, Raphaƫl Luta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Discussions have already happened in both the Grafitto and the > Jackrabbit communities to "move" development of the JCR mapping > functionality into the Jaskrabbit community and the fee