Re: Dynamic message selectors and message scheduling

2006-08-16 Thread Bruce Snyder
On 8/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... there seems to be an outstanding issue of there not being properly working XA transaction manager available as Open Source. Excerpt from the JOTM website (http://jotm.objectweb.org/): '15 February 2005: NOTICE The JOTM Team has recent

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> Hmm, that's not universally true though - Over the last year or so, > SF mailing lists have have various /prolonged/ outages whereas > Freenode IRC has not (as far as I know). We don't use SF infrastructure. --- Noel But ASF has had infrastructure outages the last year, just like cod

Re: [doc] first call for review for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

2006-08-16 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi David, Upayavira, Thanks, I figured it out from the instructions on the site. After I updated the site it successfully rsync'd to the live site. And now you can see it too. Thanks, Craig On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:17 PM, David Crossley wrote: Upayavira wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Ok,

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Aug 16 23:53:33 2006

2006-08-16 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

Re: [doc] first call for review for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

2006-08-16 Thread David Crossley
Upayavira wrote: > Craig L Russell wrote: > > Ok, I took the plunge and built the site. I checked in the updated > > participation.html page. > > Then, IIUC, you ssh to people.apache.org, cd to > /www/incubator.apache.org/wherever/you/need/to/be, and do an svn up > > It may then take a few hours

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On 16 Aug 06, at 9:40 AM 16 Aug 06, Dion Gillard wrote: > >> You mean like this: >> >> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/IRC+Log+Design+Discussion+26+May+2005 >> >> > > That particular discussion had everyone who even vaguely knew what the > issue at hand was, eve

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Jason van Zyl wrote: > On 15 Aug 06, at 12:27 PM 15 Aug 06, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > >> >> >> Jan Blok wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> What could be the problem of any real-time communication medium usage >>> between some community members as long as every one agrees code and >>> design decisions are m

RE: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Gwyn Evans wrote: > Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: > > IRC BTW is very flaky if you don't have good connection (as most people > > at AC currently experience). Mail is much better for that because it is > > not as volatile as IRC. > Hmm, that's not universally true though - Over the last year or s

RE: Forming an ActiveMQ PPMC

2006-08-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James Strachan wrote: > Brian McCallister wrote: > > The ActiveMQ committers have decided to aim for TLP status (1) OK > > we need to get a PPMC in place. Thus far we have been working > > under a "committer votes all count" style > FWIW we've had a PPMC in place for some time ;) As James note

Re: Automating Report Reminders (and the Project Index)

2006-08-16 Thread david reid
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > david reid wrote: > >> Where is the information you maintain presently? > > The site is built from > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/, and the specific > stuff that you'd be looking for is in multiple locations: > > Projects (one file per): >

Re: Setting up a Maven 2 repo Was: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-08-16 Thread Guillaume Nodet
What is the real purpose of such a repository if it is not synced to ibiblio ? What if a user of an incubating project create an upload request ? There's no reason why Apache internal policies would affect such a request. AFAIK, Ibiblio repository is not owned by the ASF ... Jason van Zyl wrote:

Re: Setting up a Maven 2 repo Was: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-08-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Tis done (Thanks Joe). It's for Incubator releases and not for snapshots. It's not for 3rd party jars that the Incubator projects need (these should go in the snapshot repository). I'll update the very young repository faq to mention these two new repos: http://www.apache.org/dev/repository-faq

Glasglow to Qpid

2006-08-16 Thread Carl Trieloff
I have completed the rename on the wiki from Blaze to Glasgow to Qpid. The updated page (only the name and ASF resources to be setup have changed). The new page can be found at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/QpidProposal Project setup can now be done with Qpid for the name and qpid lowercase

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 15 Aug 06, at 12:27 PM 15 Aug 06, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Jan Blok wrote: Hi, What could be the problem of any real-time communication medium usage between some community members as long as every one agrees code and design decisions are made on the mailing list? Because the reality is

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-16 Thread Jim Hurley
On Aug 15, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: : For example, what if we created [EMAIL PROTECTED] and jinn- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Forget the question of "how many podlings" --- I am simply talking about a list related to specification work, and a list related to implementation. Is that a

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 16 Aug 06, at 9:40 AM 16 Aug 06, Dion Gillard wrote: You mean like this: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/IRC+Log+Design+Discussion+26 +May+2005 That particular discussion had everyone who even vaguely knew what the issue at hand was, even so you only know we talked about it

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-16 Thread Bob Scheifler
Craig L Russell wrote: > But I'd suggest that the com.sun.jini package should change to > org.apache.newNameForJiniImplementation when it comes over. I can certainly understand the desire from ASF's perspective for this to occur. Such a renaming will have an impact on pretty much all of our exi

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Jason, Here's the text version: http://www.awpi.com/Combs/Shaggy/A795.html I had to look up the word turd :) http://www.answers.com/turd&r=67 -- dims On 8/16/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 16 Aug 06, at 2:24 AM 16 Aug 06, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > >> agreed... without experim

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 16 Aug 06, at 2:24 AM 16 Aug 06, Roy T. Fielding wrote: agreed... without experimentation we won't know if IRC or VOIP is better, and produces a better quality/amount. Hmm, IIRC, we already experimented on that issue and discovered the result. I think it was before your time, but APR

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Alex Karasulu
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Eelco Hillenius wrote: The community learns about each other in a shared, non-exclusionary method. Private Email/IM/IRC does NOT foster that. Public IRC, free for anyone to join, at a channel that is 'officially' published/ promoted however, does. No it doesn't.

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-16 Thread Filip at Apache
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 17:36 -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: I'm not going to try and pull a Bill Clinton with "it depends what the definition of "is" is" but I'd answer that I believe the Jini Community views the project as *the* Jini implementation. But *the* as i

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-16 Thread Bob Scheifler
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > However, the current structure appears to be org.jini.* for APIs and > com.sun.something.* for implementation. Clearly that structure says > there can be multiple implementations - and in that case I'm against > putting the two parts together. Can you expand on why you

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-16 Thread Bob Scheifler
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Either way, separate lists and source control areas. Many of our specs are done "JDK-style": as javadoc embedded directly in our implementation. We use javadoc tags to identify implementation-specific information, such that we can generate both "spec" and "doc" from a sin

Re: Forming an ActiveMQ PPMC

2006-08-16 Thread Brian McCallister
On Aug 16, 2006, at 12:32 AM, James Strachan wrote: On 8/16/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The ActiveMQ committers have decided to aim for TLP status (1), as such we need to get a PPMC in place. Thus far we have been working under a "committer votes all count" style (really, e

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Dion Gillard
You mean like this: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/IRC+Log+Design+Discussion+26+May+2005 On 8/16/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jan Blok wrote: > Hi, > > What could be the problem of any real-time communication medium usage > between some community members as long a

Re: Setting up a Maven 2 repo Was: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-08-16 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 14 Aug 06, at 5:03 PM 14 Aug 06, Henri Yandell wrote: On 8/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > people.apache.org/repo/m1-incubating-repository > people.apache.org/repo/m2-incubating-repository Noel, shall I go ahead and create the above? They get my +1 from a repository@ p

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-16 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 16/08/06, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gee, now here is a sensitive subject. :-) IRC BTW is very flaky if you don't have good connection (as most people at AC currently experience). Mail is much better for that because it is not as volatile as IRC. Hmm, that's not unive

Re: Forming an ActiveMQ PPMC

2006-08-16 Thread James Strachan
On 8/16/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The ActiveMQ committers have decided to aim for TLP status (1), as such we need to get a PPMC in place. Thus far we have been working under a "committer votes all count" style (really, everyone's vote counts, it is on a public list without