Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Igor, On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Igor Vaynberg wrote: one issue that we are forgetting here and that needs to be mentioned is that wicket 2.0 requires jdk5 while 1.x is jdk1.4. so im not sure how viable of an option it is to freeze the featureset of 1.3 and only add bugfixes. a good ch

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 31 July 2006 07:27, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > This way the old branch will still be "supported".   > But none of the users should expect that the new features will be   > ported back to the old releases. And perhaps even incubate the 1.3, in case there are strong enough interest to keep

Re: Abdera 0.1.0 Release Candidate (please review)

2006-07-30 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/30/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/26/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Abdera podling has reached a point where the committers feel we're > ready to cut a 0.1.0 "developer preview" / "developer milestone" > release. We have +1's from all committer

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 31 July 2006 07:37, Leo Simons wrote: Thanks "mate" (I love that word) ;o) > (eg there won't be a book coming out > in October about "Apache Wicket 2.0", whereas a book on simply "Wicket 2.0" > in October might or might not make sense AFAIK, it will be "Wicket In Action" and cover both

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Igor Vaynberg
one issue that we are forgetting here and that needs to be mentioned is that wicket 2.0 requires jdk5 while 1.x is jdk1.4. so im not sure how viable of an option it is to freeze the featureset of 1.3 and only add bugfixes. a good chunk of our community cannot migrate to jdk5 and we have promised t

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 11:09:03PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > Perhaps it would suffice to make it ASF policy that no official > project should have a dependency on a incubating one (or such a > dependency would be scoped as provided so that the user would have to > explicitly include it).

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:25:20AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 7/27/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From the repository point of view - I don't see any reason why not. As > >long as they are defined releases (rather than snapshots), then they > >fit the rsync repo. +1 > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 02:54:35AM +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Is [stuff] against the 'spirit of incubation', or some other guideline, rule > or principle? Sorry about taking this way out of context, but its a relevant question. The back-and-forth in this thread is pretty much about a somewhat

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I haven't followed the entire thread, but this sounds like what we did in Cayenne. And it did cause some misunderstanding at times regarding our intentions. Let's try to prevent similar misunderstanding in the case of Wicket. The quoted explanation seems quite reasonable to me, except that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 03:52:39PM +0100, Upayavira wrote: > Does anyone here have an idea what the shortest time is that a new > community might be incubated (assuming no other issues)? I think, so far, none of the new top-level projects that we have incubated have done so in less than 6 months,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 30/07/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/30/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure about this, as an absolute prohibition would imply the > 1.x stream would go into maintainance, which might be more restrictive > than planned... The point is that the podl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 30/07/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Gwyn Evans wrote: > On 30/07/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - All new development comes to the Incubator. We expect no more >> 'm

Re: Abdera 0.1.0 Release Candidate (please review)

2006-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/26/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Abdera podling has reached a point where the committers feel we're ready to cut a 0.1.0 "developer preview" / "developer milestone" release. We have +1's from all committers [1] and zero -1's. The release candidate is available at: http:/

Re: Abdera 0.1.0 Release Candidate (please review)

2006-07-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 from me for a 0.1.0 release -Matthias On 7/26/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Abdera podling has reached a point where the committers feel we're ready to cut a 0.1.0 "developer preview" / "developer milestone" release. We have +1's from all committers [1] and zero -1's. Th

Re: Abdera 0.1.0 Release Candidate (please review)

2006-07-30 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/26/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Abdera podling has reached a point where the committers feel we're ready to cut a 0.1.0 "developer preview" / "developer milestone" release. We have +1's from all committers [1] and zero -1's. The release candidate is available at: http:/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Gwyn Evans wrote: On 30/07/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and > > release it on sf.net (our previous host) without br

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/30/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure about this, as an absolute prohibition would imply the 1.x stream would go into maintainance, which might be more restrictive than planned... The point is that the podling is either here or it's not. If new features are being adde

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Gwyn Evans
On 30/07/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and > > release it on sf.net (our previous host) without branding it as > > apache? > > "Backporting" the changes

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 31 July 2006 00:58, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > Legally, you may not call it Apache Wicket It is known as Wicket and will remain to be known as Wicket. > (if that's the name you decide on), and as a matter of policy, > I'd frown upon such 'backporting' behavior. Not sure what part you

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and > release it on sf.net (our previous host) without branding it as > apache? "Backporting" the changes to sf.net doesn't appear to me to be an issue, since the Apache li

Re: [doc] any volunteers?

2006-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/30/06, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 30, 2006, at 3:15 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html is really > just an outline. lot of work required. I had an itch to help with this one. good this one has a shape outlin

Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase two

2006-07-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/30/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, Looks reasonable to me: anything to improve clarity is nice. +1 to all the JIRA issue resolutions proposed below. +1 to those JIRA issues as well... -- justin - To uns

Re: [doc] any volunteers?

2006-07-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jul 30, 2006, at 3:15 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html is really just an outline. lot of work required. I had an itch to help with this one. -- Jeremy - To unsubscr

Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase two

2006-07-30 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, Looks reasonable to me: anything to improve clarity is nice. +1 to all the JIRA issue resolutions proposed below. Yoav On 7/29/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a few more changes that i think that policy neutral (please jump in if i am mistaken) i'm +1to all - robert

Re: [doc] any volunteers?

2006-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/30/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure ok, I'll volunteer to have a go. great :-) What doc do you have in mind? there are lots of docs which need work so hopefully you'll be able to find something that interests you :-) all DRAFTs need work. these are in varying states of co

Re: [doc] any volunteers?

2006-07-30 Thread ant elder
Sure ok, I'll volunteer to have a go. What doc do you have in mind? ...ant On 7/30/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the organisation's starting to improve a little which should make it easier to collaborate. i can think of quite a few tasks many of which are editorial and

[doc] any volunteers?

2006-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
the organisation's starting to improve a little which should make it easier to collaborate. i can think of quite a few tasks many of which are editorial and so don't really require a lot of specialist knowledge. any volunteers want to take on some documentation over the next few weeks? - robert