Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I'd like to vote +1 (non-binding) Regards, Matthias On 7/12/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to t

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[VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-12 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to the Incubator for consideration. The proposal can be found in the Incubator wiki here: http://wiki.a

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And, yes, we've been talking for a while about splitting it out. Efforts started up recently to put a proposal before the Board. I look forward to seeing that proposal then. =) -- justin -

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier?

2006-07-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you can't devote the required effort, tell the others and 'resign'. The One thing our members are *very* *very* good at is overcommiting themselves. So, no, seeing a mentor resign due to not being able to devote the "required" effort is

Re: Use of Incubating Project Names without mentioning Incubator?

2006-07-12 Thread sophitia que
Yes, any project that is part of the Incubator needs to refer to the Apache Incubator in the first mention of the project in a contiguous body of work. (e.g. one document, one web page, one article). Hopefully, our newly devised policies and procedures will make this clearer to all contributors/I

Use of Incubating Project Names without mentioning Incubator?

2006-07-12 Thread Dion Gillard
Are documents like https://www14.software.ibm.com/iwm/web/cc/earlyprograms/websphere/soawas61/ supposed to mention that a project is in the incubator? -- http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize" - Muhammad Ali -

Clean up of WADI Incubator

2006-07-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I'm still receiving messages to moderate for the WADI Incubator. Since the podling never matured and I believe is now defunct what do we need to do to stop the moderate messages. I'm happy to do I'm just not sure how. Cheers, Matt

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier?

2006-07-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 13 July 2006 09:20, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Although history documents an unfortunately strong human tendency towards > delegating to a hierarchical authority, the ASF philosophy is peer-based, > not hierarchical.  The PMC Chair is a legal requirement, not a community > one, and a fall

RE: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
robert burrell donkin wrote: > i've been wondering whether the answer may be to have a chair for each ppmc > analogous to the role of the pmc chair. I strongly disagree. Although history documents an unfortunately strong human tendency towards delegating to a hierarchical authority, the ASF phil

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/12/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't > commit the time to be a mentor right now.) > this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an exi

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
Erik Abele wrote: On 12.07.2006, at 19:39, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintr

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I like the idea. so +1 (non-binding) but how should that really work? Each incubator project could have nominated two or three PMC members whose job is to pay attention to the project. How does a podling know which to nominate etc? The need for that is there, of course. I try to do the best

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1.. Mvgr, Martin robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an existing issue

RE: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > As an aside, I'm also a bit befuddled at why MINA lives in the > Directory project - that just seems a bit odd. =) It is there because MINA was written to implement ApacheDS. It is the ... third, I believe ... generation I/O framework used in that project. And, yes,

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 12.07.2006, at 19:39, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an existing

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 12, 2006, at 10:39 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an exi

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread Sam Ruby
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an existing issue ( http://mail-archive

Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an existing issue ( http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubato

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jim, On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:45 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Dan, I have to agree that if an existing code base is migrated to Apache, it should not mean that all maintenance ceases on the existing code. There are good reasons for projec

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
One thing at a time :-) I'll try to whip this off and check it in for people to look at. can you ping the list after it? -Matt Jason. > > > Dan > > > > On Tuesday July 11 2006 6:41 am, Jason van Zyl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to >> c

Re: DOAP files for Podling

2006-07-12 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 11 Jul 06, at 5:20 PM 11 Jul 06, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Tuesday July 11 2006 6:41 am, Jason van Zyl wrote: If anyone who uses Maven is interested I can whip off a plugin to create a DOAP file from a POM so that they don't have to maintain both files. CoolGreat idea :-) Coul

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dudziak
Sure! But do keep in mind, AsyncWeb is not a servlet container.. but I'm sure there's still bits to be shared, all the work the container does before having to dedicate a thread. exactly, and I'm sure that Greg would be interested, if not in the code, then at least in sharing info about NIO pit

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 7/12/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some qui

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 7/12/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance out of it. But that's besides the po

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Irving
Yoav Shapira-2 wrote: > > Hi, > You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this > idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for > Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance > out of it. But that's besides the point: I think h

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote: You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance out of it. But that's besides the point

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, You might also want to CC Filip Hanik, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on this idea. Filip has been busily working on a NIO HTTP implementation for Tomcat, and has a working version. We've seen some quirky performance out of it. But that's besides the point: I think he might be interested in this, at le

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/12/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, , an HTTP engine built upon MINA , on bringing the project to the ASF. I've started

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
awesome! thanks. -- dims On 7/12/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 12, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Can you please ping the Jakarta HttpComponents folks? see what they > think? done! (cc'd here as its a good place for common discussion) -pete -- [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Can you please ping the Jakarta HttpComponents folks? see what they think? done! (cc'd here as its a good place for common discussion) -pete -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://fotap.org/~osi smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic sig

[HttpNIO] MINA and AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
howdy! I'm writing to see if there is interest in collaborating in a larger effort to develop HTTP code that utilizes NIO. MINA is a framework here at the ASF for developing clients and servers based on NIO. There is also the AsyncWeb

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Peter, Can you please ping the Jakarta HttpComponents folks? see what they think? thanks, dims On 7/12/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, , an HTTP engine built upon MINA

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 7/12/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, , an HTTP engine built upon MINA , on bringing the project to the ASF. I've started

[pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-12 Thread peter royal
I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, , an HTTP engine built upon MINA , on bringing the project to the ASF. I've started a proposal at

Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator

2006-07-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/11/06, Danese Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that I get a vote... not so: everyone gets a vote :-) anyone who has a opinion on any issue should definitely feel free to express it however, only some votes are binding on apache (in this case, AIUI votes from those currently on the