Re: Incubator site status wrt a move to Anakia?

2006-01-24 Thread David Crossley
It is time to make a plan for the move to Anakia. We cannot afford for it to drag on any longer. --- 1) Review the generated source documents in site/xdocs2 Did the transformation perform okay? http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site/README.txt --- 2)

[OT] Kabuki Proposal -- Eclipse Plugins

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
Since I don't really know my way around the Eclipse community very well, I thought I might ask the question here. I was really interested in the Eclipse portion of the original Kabuki proposal but that's now been kicked over to the Eclipse foundation. So, does anyone know where I can join in on t

[VOTE] OFBiz Proposal

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OFBizProposal = OFBiz Proposal = This proposal outlines the creation of a new, top-level Open for Business (OFBiz) project within the Apache Software Foundation. == Rationale == The Open For Business Project is an open source enterprise automation software proje

RE: public perceptions

2006-01-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
David N. Welton wrote: > > I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit > > when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under > > incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by > > Apache. Actually, we've had quite a few comments from t

Re: [vote] Request approval to declare Woden 1.0.0 M3 Candidate by EOD Jan. 24

2006-01-24 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 24, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: Sanjiva, Sorry about violating Apache netiquette. This was not intentional. I had previously been asked to send this vote to the incubator and ws pmc lists and was advised to send it to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list as well. To be honest, I

Re: [vote] Request approval to declare Woden 1.0.0 M3 Candidate by EOD Jan. 24

2006-01-24 Thread Lawrence Mandel
Sanjiva, Sorry about violating Apache netiquette. This was not intentional. I had previously been asked to send this vote to the incubator and ws pmc lists and was advised to send it to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list as well. To be honest, I'm feeling pretty lost wrt the correct process to release

Re: [vote] Request approval to declare Woden 1.0.0 M3 Candidate by EOD Jan. 24

2006-01-24 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 13:54 -0500, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > *note: I'm resending this message as I don't believe it showed up on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawrence please don't send to general@ and a private list (the PMC lists). That's against Apache email netiquette .. Unless I am mistaken your mail

Re: public perceptions

2006-01-24 Thread David Crossley
David N. Welton wrote: > [ changed subject to discuss topic more abstractly ] > > > I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit > > when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under > > incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread Mads Toftum
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:45:52PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Although TMC is fairly bland (and therefore, fine ;-) I rather like both > of the proposed alternatives. Kowa, unlike alot of other Native American > names proposed on this list, is simply the name for a structure, so I don't

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Stein, Neil S wrote: Hi, It'd be nice to have an alternative." Point taken An alternate would be "Ohana" ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohana Although TMC is fairly bland (and therefore, fine ;-) I rather like both of the proposed alternatives. Kowa, unlike alot of other Native Am

RE: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread Stein, Neil S
Hi, >>It'd be >>nice to have an alternative." Point taken An alternate would be "Ohana" ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohana Neil Stein Enterprise Web Infrastructure phone -- 908-423-4297 -- Notice: This e-mai

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, > and I would like to propose "Kowa" > "An Apache dwelling consisting of a dome shaped frame of cottonwood or other > poles, and thatched with grass. The house itself was termed, Kowa and the > grass thatch, Pi". Mmm... We've had some discussions [1, and numerous others] in the past about u

RE: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2

2006-01-24 Thread Stein, Neil S
At Merck, the name TMC originally stood for "Tomcat Management Console" As the tool set evolved, the ability to manage Apache httpd was added. The full name simply was changed to "The Management Console". The g2 is a Merck item and should very well be dropped. We have been evaluating other

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Clark
Raphaël Luta wrote: > I completely understand that you're not a toolkit company > however I can't understand why the AjaxTk is currently in > such a sore open-source state: > - the code dumps on the site are not functional out of the > box To be precise, all of the toolkit (widgets, utils, etc)

[vote] Request approval to declare Woden 1.0.0 M3 Candidate by EOD Jan. 24

2006-01-24 Thread Lawrence Mandel
*note: I'm resending this message as I don't believe it showed up on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawrence Mandel Following the release process for projects in incubation, I'd like to request approval for Woden to declare milestone 3. A vote was held on the woden-dev list where M3 received 5 +1 votes a

Re: [VOTE] KabukiProposal

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Clark
+1, of course. :) -- Andy Clark * Zimbra * [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Sam Ruby
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: What's the status of the vote? I'm confused by calls to repeal the vote and modifications to the vote and all that. I thought we were spsed to be a simple bunch of, um, people but it sure doesn't look like it! ;-) Overview of what occurred: 1) on 12/20, Adam Peller

Re: [VOTE] KabukiProposal

2006-01-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 On 1/24/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:30:57AM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KabukiProposal > > > > Contents of proposal reproduced below: > > > +1 from me. > > - Leo > > -

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Raphaël Luta
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Hi Raphael, > > >>I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit >>when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under >>incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by >>Apache. > > > If that's indeed the prob

Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/22/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is also good to try to ensure that discussion has settled down, and that > there is a consensus before calling for the vote. I generally believe that > a good ASF vote isn't called to make a decision; it is called to ratify one. Exactly.

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Hi Raphael, > I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit > when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under > incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by > Apache. If that's indeed the problem then we need to work on clearing up t

Re: Incubator site status wrt a move to Anakia?

2006-01-24 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: > > I will 'svn ci' my generated xdocs into site/xdocs2 > > It would be good if some other people can look > over the new source docs and the Anakia side of things. > The more that we can get the forrest export to do > the better. > > However we need to trade that off with

Re: [VOTE] KabukiProposal

2006-01-24 Thread Steven Noels
On 23 Jan 2006, at 14:30, Sam Ruby wrote: == 1. Scope of the subprojects == The initial scope of the project will include client-side widgets and other utilities from the Zimbra AjaxTK, as described in 0.1. OK. In addition, the Kabuki project will also include server-side infrastructure to

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Raphaël Luta
Andrew Clark wrote: > Raphaël Luta wrote: > >>Seeing Zimbra current OSS efforts with this toolkit >>(even with an ASF member in their team), I have a hard >>time believing this proposal is anything but a branding >>exercise to help this toolkit stand out in the crowd of >>Ajax toolkits. >

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Ted Leung
On Jan 23, 2006, at 4:38 AM, Raphaël Luta wrote: XMLBeans had only 1 member/committer from the beginning but not affiliated with the sponsor. Steven Noels and I were the ASF members involved with XMLBeans and neither of us was employed by BEA. The initial list of committers included 3

public perceptions

2006-01-24 Thread David N. Welton
[ changed subject to discuss topic more abstractly ] > I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit > when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under > incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by > Apache. I think that the further

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-24 Thread Raphaël Luta
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 13:38 +0100, Raphaël Luta wrote: > >>Seeing Zimbra current OSS efforts with this toolkit (even with an ASF member >>in their team), I have a hard time believing this proposal is anything but a >>branding exercise to help this toolkit stand out in

Re: [VOTE] KabukiProposal

2006-01-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:30:57AM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KabukiProposal > > Contents of proposal reproduced below: +1 from me. - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additiona

Re: Removing Axion Resources

2006-01-24 Thread Leo Simons
Heh. On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:59:04PM -0800, Brian McCallister wrote: > The DB PMC would like to ask that the Axion incubation resources be > removed and that Axion no longer be considered in incubation. Right. So, ehm. Like Noel already said a few times. Update the status page and talk to in