Re: committer account request

Martin Sebor wrote: > > FWIW, I didn't read the text as saying that *only* ASF members can > view the file but rather that PMC members should be able to view it > and if not, then an ASF member will definitely be able to. Since I > am a PPMC member (but not a PMC one), I was unclear about whether

RE: a few steps before approving a project

Cliff, > - change the Incubator PMC charter (not that we have a official > charter) to include approving of all new projects To quote (or paraphrase) Roy, it is not the Incubator PMC's role to second guess other ASF PMCs when it comes to introducing new ASF projects. > - ensure all proposals use

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

Since a software grant is involved, we do need to incubate the code. So, we are at the step where "The Incubator PMC MAY immediately accept the Candidate, or may (at the discretion of the Incubator PMC) require a successful VOTE by the Incubator PMC." If no one responds negatively to the VOTE

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

Ok... so Ted, are we still voting for informative reasons only? regards, Martin On 8/31/05, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but don't take my personal thoughts/proposals to be policy. > Matthias is right that the current policy does not require an > Incubator PMC vote. > > Cli

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

Yes, but don't take my personal thoughts/proposals to be policy. Matthias is right that the current policy does not require an Incubator PMC vote. Cliff On 8/31/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, > > as Cliff has just pointed out, that should not be enough, at least in >

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On Aug 31, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:43 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: The Incubator's charter from the board says: RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is resp

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

However, as the rules stand right now, if you have a PMC that has voted to accept the project then you don't even need a vote here; you're simply good to go. Yeah, I was surprised too but that's the rules as they are now. Sanjiva. On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:16 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote: > Wel

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On 8/31/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:43 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > The Incubator's charter from the board says: > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby i

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

doh! I really have to read all emails first, before writing back... Sorry for bothering, and thanks Martin for pointing this out to me ... :-) -Matthias On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:16 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote: > Well, > > as Cliff has just pointed out, that should not be enough, at least i

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

Well, as Cliff has just pointed out, that should not be enough, at least in the future. regards, Martin On 8/31/05, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Ted, > > well just a note, the MyFaces PMC has already voted for Tobago. > > -Matthias > > On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 09:51

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:43 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > The Incubator's charter from the board says: > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is > responsible for the acceptance and oversight of new prod

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On 8/31/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:01 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > BTW, the XMLBeans PMC just voted to add a single member to the PMC, > > and even that required a 72-hour wait after getting Board > > acknowledgement (which is fine with me)w

Re: a few steps before approving a project

Personally, I think that formal acceptance via the sponsor PMC and the Incubator makes sense. At present, the Incubator side is a bit fuzzy and semi-inconsistent. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comma

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On Aug 31, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: - change the Incubator PMC charter (not that we have a official charter) to include approving of all new projects, so that once a sponsor PMC (if not the Incubator PMC) approves a new project, the Incubator PMC still has to give a final approval

Re: a few steps before approving a project

--On September 1, 2005 12:29:55 AM +0600 Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does the incubator PMC get involved with that too? (I'd be most certainly -1 to that; I am not agreeable to saying all PMCs are now throttled by the incubator PMC.) If not, then doesn't the problem you're t

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On Aug 31, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: What if a current PMC wants to start an effort on its own? That is, not incubation style, where there's a process of "learning the Apache Way" etc., but rather some ASF committers getting together and starting a new project and they

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

Thanks Ted, well just a note, the MyFaces PMC has already voted for Tobago. -Matthias On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 09:51 -0400, Ted Husted wrote: > I would like to call for a vote of the Incubator PMC on the MyFaces proposal > to incubate the Tobago codebase, and if successful, to create a Tobago > s

Re: a few steps before approving a project

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:01 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: > I'd like to suggest a few changes to the process of approving new > project proposals. The purpose of these changes would be to allow the > ASF to consider big picture issues related to the acceptance of new > projects into the Incubator, w

Re: a few steps before approving a project

--On August 31, 2005 11:01:29 AM -0700 Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to suggest a few changes to the process of approving new project proposals. The purpose of these changes would be to allow the ASF to consider big picture issues related to the acceptance of new projects i

a few steps before approving a project

I'd like to suggest a few changes to the process of approving new project proposals. The purpose of these changes would be to allow the ASF to consider big picture issues related to the acceptance of new projects into the Incubator, which isn't as likely to happen with our current set of rules whe

Re: committer account request

David Crossley wrote: Martin Sebor wrote: Martin Sebor wrote: [...] I'm trying to request a user account for [...] one our committers who only recently faxed in his CLA (on 8/24 to be exact). The instructions on the page below say to monitor the file iclas.txt in the foundation/officers repos

[VOTE] Proposal for Tobago, an Apache MyFaces subproject

I would like to call for a vote of the Incubator PMC on the MyFaces proposal to incubate the Tobago codebase, and if successful, to create a Tobago subproject within the MyFaces project. The proposal was first circulated to general@ in message #5937, and is currently represented on the Incubat

Re: Proposal for new sub-project Tobago (of MyFaces)

The next step is for the incubator PMC to vote on the proposal. Once the proposal passes, we can start filing the CLAs and asking root to create the accounts. -Ted. On 8/31/05, Arvid Hülsebus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ted, > > thanks for adding the proposal to the wiki and for the

Re: Proposal for new sub-project Tobago (of MyFaces)

Hello Ted, thanks for adding the proposal to the wiki and for the updates. Now we are wondering what the next steps are. We have already signed the CLAs and CCLA. Should we send these documents to the ASF? Regards, Arvid - T

Re: Proposal for new sub-project Tobago (of MyFaces)

I added the proposal to the wiki, and then updated it to reflect that I could serve as Mentor, and then made some stylistic changes. * http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TobagoProposal -Ted.