Incubator 2004Q4 Status Report to the ASF Board

2004-10-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Status report for the Apache Incubator Project Since the last report to the Board, Lenya has become ready to fly the nest; and new projects such as Agila, Derby, JackRabbit and iBATIS have begun Incubation. Infrastructure bottlenecks continue to e

RE: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
thorsten wrote: > I thought we could make rules against thus abuse in the future > without reviewing the past. I understand your concern, but we don't need to program communities. We need human judgment. We need to ask people to step up, be responsible, and do the right thing. The difference o

RE: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > there is very little in OSS that needs the secrecy Most people would certainly agree on that issue. Roy makes a habit of poking at people for having threads on a PMC list that should be on a public one. > Other people in ASF is obviously of a different opinion, as my > b

Re: Query About FtpServer

2004-10-18 Thread Jill Stephenson
Following on from this previously unanswered question, can any supply any futher information as to whether the ftpserver project is still active and if so where it is heading. Or can I assume from the lack of response that it has since been abandoned? -- Jill http://www.ozibug.com - quality we

Re: STATUS: Jackrabbit

2004-10-18 Thread Michael Wechner
Roy T. Fielding wrote: task from now to graduation is to get the community more involved in development, planning features, integrating with some of the DB projects, as Rolf was stating, it would help a lot to have a get started page, or a Wiki where people can note their findings, even if certain

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
Ted Husted wrote: Part of what it means to be an Apache is that it's not about "rules", it's about consensus. As far as rules do go, I think the closest we may ever get is: * http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html As I'm going through the mentoring process myself, I'm working on expan

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Ted Husted
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:01:17 -0700, Robin Antony wrote: > Hi all, > I have been following this thread with quite some interest. IMO > there should be a set of rules to let the novice commiters know > when a ASF veteran who is guiding the team is really crossing the > line. There should be a do and

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Erik Abele
On 18.10.2004, at 13:34, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Monday 18 October 2004 19:05, Santiago Gala wrote: El lun, 18-10-2004 a las 11:08 +0200, Stephen McConnell escribió: Seems to me that he's talking about a very real dark-side of the ASF. Facts? I would like to see something substantial. Same here.

STATUS: Beehive

2004-10-18 Thread Cliff Schmidt
Status file is up to date; see http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/beehive.cwiki, or http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html when site is regenerated) Code & Infrastructure - initial code drop was made in mid-July. Ongoing development is very a

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
Although not my area of interest, +1 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:30 AM Subject: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle Hi all, Please vote on the Castle incubation proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CastleProposal +1 from me. References: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyeb

Re: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle

2004-10-18 Thread hammett
My non-binding vote just to bring the topic back :-D +1 Cheers, hammett - Original Message - From: "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:30 AM Subject: [VOTE] Proposal for Castle Hi all, Please vote on the Castle incubation proposal:

BPEL

2004-10-18 Thread Hookom, Jacob
Is there anything going on with the Business Process project? Jacob Hookom Senior Analyst/Programmer McKesson Medical-Surgical, Minnesota - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 18 October 2004 19:05, Santiago Gala wrote: > El lun, 18-10-2004 a las 11:08 +0200, Stephen McConnell escribió: > > Seems to me that he's talking about a very real dark-side of the > > ASF. > > Facts? I would like to see something substantial. Perhaps this is "culture", I don't know. B

RE: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Santiago Gala
El lun, 18-10-2004 a las 11:08 +0200, Stephen McConnell escribiÃ: > > FUD? > Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. What he started to sew, maybe unwillingly and you're trying to scrap benefits from now. > Seems to me that he's talking about a very real dark-side of the > ASF. > Facts? I would like to

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Robin Antony wrote: I have been following this thread with quite some interest. IMO there should be a set of rules to let the novice commiters know when a ASF veteran who is guiding the team is really crossing the line. There should be a do and don't about what ASF members are supossed to do and

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Steven Noels
On 19 Oct 2004, at 02:01, Robin Antony wrote: I have been following this thread with quite some interest. IMO there should be a set of rules to let the novice commiters know when a ASF veteran who is guiding the team is really crossing the line. There should be a do and don't about what ASF memb

RE: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 October 2004 10:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges > > On 18 Oct 2004, at 02:19, thorsten wrote: > > > Steven Noels wrote: > >> Nope. What Thorsten describ

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Robin Antony
Hi all, I have been following this thread with quite some interest. IMO there should be a set of rules to let the novice commiters know when a ASF veteran who is guiding the team is really crossing the line. There should be a do and don't about what ASF members are supossed to do and not suposs

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Steven Noels
On 18 Oct 2004, at 02:19, thorsten wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Nope. What Thorsten describes looks pretty bad IMO, so I want to know what is going on. Otherwise, this shouldn't have been posted at all. No need to keep the dust under the carpet. And if Thorsten doesn't want to go public with it -

Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges

2004-10-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
> > > > I will not vote on policy which makes no sense or is based on unproven > > facts from the past. > > I really do not see your point that this policy do not make sense! > > I started this abstract thread to prevent that things from happening *in > the future*. Rules don't prevent anythi