Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Craig McClanahan
Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces Vote ends Midnight EDT (between Monday and Tuesday), Monday July 12, 2004. --- Noel Agree with the caveat about ephemeral Wiki pages versus something more

Re: [Proposal] MyFaces

2004-07-10 Thread Craig McClanahan
James Holmes wrote: It has been "open sourced". That's what the sun research license is. However, it is not very "open". The precise wording of the announcement talked about putting the RI of JavaServer Faces under "open development", but not claiming to be "open source" until the license was

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stephen McConnell wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. I let it go for three months and now I'm seeing the consequences on not speaking up earlier. If peopl

Re: [proposal] Lenya exiting Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I would like to start discussing the fact that Lenya is, IMO, mature, diverse and integrated enough with the ASF substrate enough to exit incubation. My reasons are: ... Having taken part of Lenya mentoring, I can say that the Lenya community is very nice and has taken

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. I let it go for three months and now I'm seeing the consequences on not speaking up earlier. If people here think it is appropri

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> unnecessary and unwarranted disruption of an incubator project Let it go. No one other than you is characterizing it that way. Just let it go. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
Brian Behlendorf wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither gen

RE: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> One small comment: since Wiki pages can change at any time, in the > future it might be best to have votes reference static html (or > inlined) proposals instead of wiki pages. Agreed. Yours is the second such comment, and I think it is a perfectly valid one. --- Noel --

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-10 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Please, not here. I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. At least I am not, and I can imagine that neither general@ nor [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
[X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator [ ] Reject MyFaces -- |---| | Magic by Merlin | | Production by Avalon | | | | http://avalon.apache.org | |

Re: [VOTE] Accept MyFaces for Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Phil Steitz
Noel J. Bergman wrote: See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal [X] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator One small comment: since Wiki pages can change at any time, in the future it might be best to have votes reference static html (or inlined) proposals instead of wiki pages. The +1 a

[proposal] Lenya exiting Incubation

2004-07-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I would like to start discussing the fact that Lenya is, IMO, mature, diverse and integrated enough with the ASF substrate enough to exit incubation. My reasons are: 1) wyona developers are no longer the unique driving development force of the project 2) communication happens entirely on the