RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Tim O'Brien
Martin, Sorry if the reply is redundant. In general, you will find a number of opinions on the topic of infrastructure. I have generally found that the ASF adapts to the needs of individual projects - some projects use Subversion and some projects use CVS. Similarly, some projects use Jira and

RE: Adding log4cxx and log4pgp to the Incubator web-site

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Could someone who knows how please add log4cxx and log4pgp to the sidebar > at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html. > I have updated the index page but these do not show up, yet. I don't know what you updated, but this: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/incubator/site/projects/in

RE: Moving to Jakarta

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin, Just to clarify. There are many Java related projects at the ASF. Jakarta was the original location for many, but you would really be moving to the ASF, and starting in the Incubator. The final destination could be one of the existing Java projects, or could be a new top-level project.

RE: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > Specifically, a comment like "it is important to get out official > > (incubation) release files soon since users and developers are > > waiting for a release to base their productive environments on" > > makes me nervous. > Maybe u missed the word incubation in brackets? No, I saw it. But I

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James Holmes wrote: > My guess is that it would be best served as a sub-project of Jakarta Well, I think that Jakarta has enough on its plate, and wouldn't necessarily favor adding a cohesive community into that maelstrom. But that is something that can be determined later, when the project is re

Re: Move Apache faq to apache site?

2004-06-15 Thread Erik Abele
On 15.06.2004, at 17:03, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Over here [1] there are some FAQs about Apache. I think that they are much better to be put here [2]. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html You mean just the first section, right? Sounds reasonable. W

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Erik Abele
On 15.06.2004, at 18:32, Marinschek Martin wrote: Another question - what do we have to change regarding project infrastructure to enter the incubator/ and later to be a project? Do we have to embrace Maven or can we somehow ship around this? The most basic things you'd have to move are source co

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Steve Raeburn
I don't think there's ever been a directive to use Maven. We're investigating it for the Struts build, but for now Ant is still our official build tool. If you do *choose* to use Maven, I believe the project still needs to be able to be built from Ant for Gump and nightly builds. Maven has a targe

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Steve Raeburn
I'd also support sponsoring this project through Struts PMC or Jakarta PMC. I'm not involved in Geronimo, but have no problems if it's brought on board via that route. If I can help in any practical way, I will. Steve > -Original Message- > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Marinschek Martin
Another question - what do we have to change regarding project infrastructure to enter the incubator/ and later to be a project? Do we have to embrace Maven or can we somehow ship around this? Martin -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Marinschek Martin
The vote is currently happening and we have 6 positive votes and one "ok, if it has to be" ;) so far... We started to vote today, so I would give the others some time to make their point clear, afterwards we can go ahead. Best regards, Martin -Original Message- From: James Holmes [ma

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread James Holmes
My guess is that it would be best served as a sub-project of Jakarta, however, I'm somewhat indifferent. If necessary, I presume it could be moved to another "home" later. BTW, are all we waiting on is a formal license adoption from all of the current MyFaces committers to get started? -James -

RE: Move Apache faq to apache site?

2004-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Over here [1] there are some FAQs about Apache. > I think that they are much better to be put here [2]. > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html > [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html You mean just the first section, right? Sounds reasonable. With a link from the incubator page to t

Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release

2004-06-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Mind you, building an end-user community is not an incubation priority. We care about IP and development community, and the latter ought to be able to participate directly from source control. Specifically, a comment like "it is important to

Re: [Myfaces-develop] Moving to Jakarta

2004-06-15 Thread Thomas Spiegl
+1 +1 from me. > Hey there, > > I have started asking at Apache Incubator if there is any interest to get > MyFaces up and running as an Apache sub-project; and the interest is not > too small. > > The guys at Apache incubator would need us to change the license of > MyFaces to an Apache style

Re: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jun 15, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Martin, Fine to hear that some interest is there! So far, I have heard from Dain Sundstrom (Geronimo) and James Holmes (Struts) that they are interested in participating on a MyFaces PPMC. I expect we'll hear from others, and ought to be able to

Adding log4cxx and log4pgp to the Incubator web-site

2004-06-15 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, Could someone who knows how please add log4cxx and log4pgp to the sidebar at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html. I have updated the index page but these do not show up, yet. (One would need to run forrest which I do not know how to do.) Many thanks in advance, -- Ceki Gülcü

Re: The 50% Rule (was RE: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release)

2004-06-15 Thread Steven Noels
On 14 Jun 2004, at 23:07, Cliff Schmidt wrote: Personally, I'd like to see one or two quantitative rules (such as one about independent committers to allow for vetoes) IMHO, that would be a requirement for projects prior to *entering* the incubator. -- Steven Noelshtt

Moving to Jakarta

2004-06-15 Thread Marinschek Martin
Hey there, I have started asking at Apache Incubator if there is any interest to get MyFaces up and running as an Apache sub-project; and the interest is not too small. The guys at Apache incubator would need us to change the license of MyFaces to an Apache style license and to assign someone w

Move Apache faq to apache site?

2004-06-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Over here [1] there are some FAQs about Apache. I think that they are much better to be put here [2]. WDOT? [1] http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent -

RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?

2004-06-15 Thread Marinschek Martin
Ok, as to the community: The community consists mainly of independent developers. As far as I know, only the two founder members and me are working together on a project in an Austrian bank (the OeKB "Austrian Control Bank", free translation ;), but two of us are freelancers and have founded ou

RE: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release

2004-06-15 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 08:46, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: > > Noel, have your concerns been addressed? > > I think so. They've been addressed in that they've been discussed. Steven > has been watching Lenya closely, particularly recently, and seems convinced > that there has been a