Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-26 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 20:51 +, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 20:03 Nathan Sidwell, wrote: > > > > > Dear members of the GCC Steering Committee (SC),  I ask you to > > remove > > Richard > > Stallman (RMS) from the SC, or, shoul

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-26 Thread Hi-Angel via Gcc
the code of conduct > he > helped author. wiredferret's twitter feed. > 8. I understand he’s tried to circumvent such codes of conduct by asking > women to meet him outside of the conference venue. _sagesharp_'s twitter feed. > 9. He doesn’t acknowledge the few wome

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
someone who hasn't even been present in the community can't be expected to make any real difference to that matter; it would rather make us seem *less* welcoming and more intolerant, and suggest other motivations for the move. Let's be real and honest, when was the last time an

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021, 13:40 Alexandre Oliva via Gcc, wrote: > > What could support any rational belief that having RMS one extra level > removed from our technical community would bring about anything > resembling a solution to the very undesirable and unjust gender > imbalance y

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
On Mar 27, 2021, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > But listing his name on our web page as a leader of the project > surely makes a difference to how the project is perceived. You're probably right that it does, just maybe not quite in the way you seem to perceive it. The Free Software community is a lo

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
n and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 5:12 AM > From: "Siddhesh Poyarekar" > To: "Alexandre Oliva" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee &

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Andrea Corallo via Gcc
Didier Kryn writes: >     I'm terrified by this campaign of harassment against the person who > has given the biggest contribution to free software. FWIW I find this terrifying too. What scare me the most is that people supporting RMS are indeed scared of coming out publicly by the aggressivene

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
Software Advocacy > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 8:49 AM > From: "Martin Liška" > To: "Nathan Sidwell" , "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > On 3/26/21 9:02 PM, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > > Dear mem

My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-27 Thread pawel k. via Gcc
Hello, I would like to ask whether there would be interest in the project to be able to build a single binary of gcc where target would be selectable with option flags ie more than one target could be included and aimed for by single binary. If so i could try myself at adding such feature to gcc

Re: My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-27 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021, 23:38 pawel k. via Gcc, wrote: > Hello, > I would like to ask whether there would be interest in the project to be > able to build a single binary of gcc where target would be selectable with > option flags ie more than one target could be included and aimed for

Re: My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-27 Thread pawel k. via Gcc
Hmm, Thanks. Not sure I can see answer from him. Ill recheck it. Best regards, Pawel Kunio niedz., 28.03.2021, 01:27 użytkownik Jonathan Wakely napisał: > > > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021, 23:38 pawel k. via Gcc, wrote: > >> Hello, >> I would like to ask whether there

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-27 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation - Natural Resource Exploration and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 2:27 PM > From: "Óscar Fuentes" > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: Remove RMS

Re: My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-28 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 02:20 pawel k., wrote: > Hmm, > Thanks. Not sure I can see answer from him. Ill recheck it. > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235079.html

Re: My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-28 Thread pawel k. via Gcc
n, 28 Mar 2021, 02:20 pawel k., wrote: > >> Hmm, >> Thanks. Not sure I can see answer from him. Ill recheck it. >> > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235079.html > > > >

Re: My 2nd attempt to devel for gcc

2021-03-28 Thread pawel k. via Gcc
e I can see answer from him. Ill recheck it. >> > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235079.html > > > >

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-28 Thread Saloni Garg via Gcc
, 2021 at 12:48 AM David Malcolm wrote: > On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 14:52 +0530, Saloni Garg via Gcc wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am an undergraduate student in AMU, Aligarh. I am interested in the > > project* `Extend the static analysis pass`. *I have followed this( > > https:

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
port to the local police > station to get her house raided and arrested) for simply saying the > same things we are discussing here now. > > I witnessed something similar recently when we had setup the > mailinglist to discuss improving governance of the GNU project. When a > female GNU

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-28 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
to be created that weren't in the original CFGs or callgraph (for the interprocedural case). I think an implementation of exception-handling would look somewhat similar. > Please, let me know your thoughts on this. Looks like you're making a great start. Hope this is helpful Dave

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc
Dear GCC Community, Hi. My name is JeanHeyd Meneide, my online moniker is "ThePhD" (not an actual Doctor. Yet!). I spend a lot of my time hacking on C and C++. Some of the things I've done include: - Contributing (mostly) a Implementation [1] - Doing a GSoC for GCC and w

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
Hello, Siddhesh, Thanks for clarifying your understanding of Nathan's goal. I may indeed have misread and mistaken Nathan's goal and means. I thought the goal was to improve the GCC community by addressing the gender imbalance, and that the means (misguided, IMHO) was to distance ours

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
Setting aside whether or not RMS should be associated with the GCC project for a bit, I'm particularly concerned about the tone of some of the messages on this thread.  People can and will have differences, and that is fine.  But the discussion needs to stay civil. To those who

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
On Mar 28, 2021, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Nathan posted today's followup. Erhm... Nathan, please accept my apologies. I misread someone else's message under the false impression it had come from you. -- Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/ Free Software Activist

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On 3/27/2021 2:49 PM, Martin Liška wrote: On 3/26/21 9:02 PM, Nathan Sidwell wrote: Dear members of the GCC Steering Committee (SC),  I ask you to remove Richard Stallman (RMS) I do fully support Nathan's request. Speaking strictly for myself, not as a representative of the ste

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
(Geocomputation) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation - Natural Resource Exploration and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:47 AM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "GCC Development

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
On Mar 28, 2021, Mark Wielaard wrote: > It shows we don't tolerate harassment in our project. It shows we will favor and engage in harassment against a certain demographic group, while pretending or believing it will somehow make for a welcoming atmosphere. > everybody I talked to about it had

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
ent: Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:13 AM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "JeanHeyd Meneide" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi, > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 10:33:15A

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
e than you ever will. On Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 19:43 Christopher Dimech via Gcc, wrote: > > > - > Christopher Dimech > General Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation) > - Geophysical Simulation > - Geological Subsurface Mappin

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-28 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
highly misguided. Money and power often buy what they shouldn't. > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:21 AM > From: "Soul Studios" > To: "Mark Wielaard" , "GCC Development" > Cc: "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC S

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
e-fu for sources. I emailed > several members of the SC, and don't want to bomb them with yet a third copy. > ] > > Dear members of the GCC Steering Committee (SC), I ask you to remove Richard > Stallman (RMS) from the SC, or, should you chose not to do so, make a clear > s

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> I think I will leave this discussion up to those who have more > familiarity with the guy than I do. There's no doubt that some of the > stuff Stallman has written creeps me the hell out, and I think it was > more the tone of the OP I objected to. I mostly want to stay out of this and will le

GSoC 2021

2021-03-29 Thread Dmitry Torilov via Gcc
Greetings, I saw a task on your site for GSoC called <>. I am very interested in it, and I would like to know if it is possible to do it this summer. I have experience in C/C++ development as well as experience in related fields. I know how to compile GCC, and I have a top-level understand

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
021 at 9:41 AM > From: "Soul Studios" > To: "Richard Kenner" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, m...@klomp.org, nat...@acm.org > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > > On 30/03/2021 1:18 am, Richard Kenner wrote: > >> I think I

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:09 PM > From: "Ian Lance Taylor" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Soul Studios" , "GCC Development" > , "Mark Wielaard" , "Nathan Sidwell" > > Subject: Re: Remove RM

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:20 PM > From: "Joseph Myers" > To: "Mark Wielaard" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > On Sun, 28 Mar 2021, Mark W

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:30 PM > From: "Thomas Rodgers" > To: "Ian Lance Taylor" , "GCC Development" > , "Mark Wielaard" , "Nathan Sidwell" > > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > On

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
Joseph, On Mar 29, 2021, Joseph Myers wrote: > This is based on the longstanding, > well-documented patterns of how he has misbehaved towards women, I have a great deal of respect for your attention to detail. I can hardly believe you would make such a claim without having actually looked int

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, 08:48 mfriley via Gcc, wrote: > For the record, I am not a GNU contributor--I am only chiming in as a > > FOSS sympathizer. I will not pretend to be unbiased, or to have any sort > > of personal experience with, or extensive knowledge of, RMS's behavio

Re: Question about reading LTO function summaries

2021-03-30 Thread Erick Ochoa via Gcc
Hello, just trying again to increase visibility of this question. Many thanks in advance! On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:49, Erick Ochoa wrote: > > Hello, > > I already have some experience developing SIMPLE_IPA_PASSes, but I am > looking to understand IPA_PASSes better. I have made a hello world ip

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, 02:34 Christopher Dimech via Gcc, wrote: > > > > > Insofar as Stallman is the foundation of all authority, He exercises that > foundation because He is the founder of His own work. He is the foundation > upon which all other authority stands or f

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Mon, 29 Mar 2021, 11:13 Richard Biener via Gcc, wrote: > > I do think that the request at hand puts specific pressure on the SC > members that > is unwarranted - you ask for them to respond but they are likely powerless > as to > the actual request. I don't think the

Question about points-to analysis, global variables, IPA, and field sensitivity

2021-03-30 Thread Erick Ochoa via Gcc
Hi, I am looking at the points-to analysis in GCC and I found the following comment in tree-ssa-structalias.c: /* Collect field information. */ if (use_field_sensitive && var_can_have_subvars (decl) /* ??? Force us to not use subfields for globals in IPA mode.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 10:48, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 30/03/2021 à 10:25, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc a écrit : > > I've been asking myself what benefit GCC gets from being linked to GNU and > > all I can think of is the DNS records for gcc.gnu.org. > > Can you rem

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Andrew Haley via Gcc
On 3/30/21 10:47 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/03/2021 à 10:25, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc a écrit : >> I've been asking myself what benefit GCC gets from being linked to GNU and >> all I can think of is the DNS records for gcc.gnu.org. > >     Can you remind the mean

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 11:14, Andrew Haley wrote: > > On 3/30/21 10:47 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 30/03/2021 à 10:25, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc a écrit : > >> I've been asking myself what benefit GCC gets from being linked to GNU and > >> all I can think of

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-30 Thread Saloni Garg via Gcc
directly > updating the program counter, registers and stack, potentially popping > multiple stack frames. This is similar to what throwing an exception > does. > > So I'd recommend looking at the analyzer's implementation of > setjmp/longjmp, the custom classes that I a

Re: GSoC 2021 - Static analyzer project

2021-03-30 Thread Ankur Saini via Gcc
hello sir in my quest of finding a bug ( which ended up being a feature ) along with it’s source in the analyzer, I tested the code on these 2 code snippets and here’s how I went towards it (1) int main() { int *ptr = (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)); return 0; } link to running example (h

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Andrew Haley via Gcc
On 3/30/21 11:34 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 11:14, Andrew Haley wrote: >> We could just rename it to "GCC", in much the same way that Acorn Risc >> Machine became Advanced Risc Machines, then just "Arm". But I'd much >&

GNU #include RFC

2021-03-30 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
I hereby announce my intent to offer online tutoring with the goal of helping reduce democraphic imbalances in the GCC development community. My planned focus is the implementation, in GCC, of the ISA extensions to OpenPOWER in the upcoming Libre-SOC processor in GCC, but I may also cover some

Re: Question about points-to analysis, global variables, IPA, and field sensitivity

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:52 AM Erick Ochoa via Gcc wrote: > > Hi, > > I am looking at the points-to analysis in GCC and I found the > following comment in tree-ssa-structalias.c: > > /* Collect field information. */ > if (use_field_sensitive > &a

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 12:13, Andrew Haley wrote: > > On 3/30/21 11:34 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 11:14, Andrew Haley wrote: > > >> We could just rename it to "GCC", in much the same way that Acorn Risc > >> Machine became Advan

Re: Question about points-to analysis, global variables, IPA, and field sensitivity

2021-03-30 Thread Erick Ochoa via Gcc
> If the global is module local we should initialize it with NULL, yes. If it > is > not module local it should be initialized with NONLOCAL (that's both what > should currently happen correctly - it's needed for non-field-sensitive init > as well). > Awesome, thanks Richard! One more question:

Re: Question about points-to analysis, global variables, IPA, and field sensitivity

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 1:39 PM Erick Ochoa wrote: > > > If the global is module local we should initialize it with NULL, yes. If > > it is > > not module local it should be initialized with NONLOCAL (that's both what > > should currently happen correctly - it's needed for non-field-sensitive in

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> For a leadership position, which serves as an example for > the community and to some extent demonstrates the values shared by the > community, I think it is reasonable that there is a decreased > expectation of privacy. .. and libel and defamation laws in the US reflect that, for example.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 11:55 PM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: dim...@gmx.com > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, m...@klomp.org, m...@soulstudios.co.nz, nat...@acm.org > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > > Here is something close t

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> I respect that you want stay out of the discussion, but I think that to > present this as some larger societal issue which is somewhat academic > is wrong. Sorry, I didn't mean to say or imply that. What I meant to say is that the very specific discussion we're having in this forum *mirrors* t

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-30 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
; > > That's something new. I also didn't know that. I believe we can > > shift our > minimal example to just func() and remove main(). Yes - simpler is better with such examples. (Occasionally it's helpful to have "main" so that the resulting code can be exec

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:16 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Nathan Sidwell" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi Nathan and hello everybody, > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021

Copyright assignment

2021-03-30 Thread George Liakopoulos via Gcc
Dear GCC Community , I am planning to contribute in Rust-GCC project ( https://github.com/Rust-GCC) , so I think it will be good to have the copyright assignment from now on . Waiting for your reply , George Liakopoulos

Re: Copyright assignment

2021-03-30 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
Replied off-list. On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:49 AM George Liakopoulos via Gcc wrote: > > Dear GCC Community , > > I am planning to contribute in Rust-GCC project ( > https://github.com/Rust-GCC) , so I think it will be good to have the > copyright assignment from now on . &g

Re: GSoC 2021 - Static analyzer project

2021-03-30 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
gimple representation of both looks exactly the same apart > from function name, which made me think that either intentionally or > unintentionally, analyzer handles case of main() differently than any > other function. Correct - the analyzer special-cases "main". Specifically,

Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Maksim Fomin via Gcc
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, 26 March 2021 г., 23:02, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > I would rather not have to write this email. Like many developers, I just want > to write code. Right now we’re working towards the GCC 11 release. I thought > about deferring this email. Bu

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> 3. Most of claims about Stallman are not true (to be more precise - > they are deliberately misrepresent what Stallman said to make his > views to look immoral). I would like to suggest that this discussion will go better without making accusations that people are "deliberately" doing something.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Markus Böck via Gcc
have been participating in this thread are also not from the USA. I am also of the opinion that legally wrong does not equal morally wrong. RMS does not have to have committed a crime for the developers of GCC, the SC or whoever, to feel like he is not representing their values as a member of t

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc
would drive away people from contributing GCC The first is that I don't want to get into the conversation about how the FSF handles Stallman. Other than them having my Copyright assignment (something I also need to take a look at), the FSF does not write the code. GCC's contributors, like

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 4:50 AM > From: "Martin Jambor" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: "GCC Development" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Dear Giacomo, > > On Tue, Mar 30 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote:

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc
Dear Giacomo, Apologies, a correction here. I should have more carefully read it, but this paragraph: > My problem is Dr. Richard M. Stallman stands credibly and > factually accused of Doxxing and GCC contributor/participant and > knowingly manipulating the project for his own

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 5:45 AM > From: "Joseph Myers" > To: "JeanHeyd Meneide" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, JeanHeyd Men

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Gabriel Ravier via Gcc
On 3/30/21 7:10 PM, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 4:50 AM From: "Martin Jambor" To: "Giacomo Tesio" Cc: "GCC Development" Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee Dear Giacomo, On Tue, Mar 30 2021, Giaco

Re: Looking at UNSUPPORTED dejagnu tests for a port...

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 20:23, Alan Lehotsky wrote: > > I’m doing some final polishing on a gcc 8.3 upgrade and taking a look at the > unsupported tests. Most of them are completely sensible (my port doesn’t > support trampolines, for example). But gcc.c-torture/execute/pr78622.c

Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Ville Voutilainen via Gcc
Giacomo wrote: >Stallman cannot betray Free Software AND get away with it. >So to me (and to many others) Stallman is a sort of a living warranty. That's fine. He doesn't need to be in the GCC SC to do that. He can continue to provide guidance on the spirit of Free Software with

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Andrew Sutton via Gcc
ation) > - Geophysical Simulation > - Geological Subsurface Mapping > - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation > - Natural Resource Exploration and Production > - Free Software Advocacy > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:55 AM > *From:* "Andrew Sutton&qu

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
On Mar 30, 2021, JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc wrote: > My problem is Dr. Richard M. Stallman stands credibly and > factually accused of Doxxing and GCC contributor/participant and > knowingly manipulating the project for his own personal reasons. This accusation is outright false, b

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc
Dear Alexandre, As stated here, shortly after I sent my message (https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235197.html): > Apologies, a correction here. I should have more carefully read > it, but this paragraph: > > > My problem is Dr. Richard M. Stallman stan

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Alexandre Oliva via Gcc
On Mar 30, 2021, JeanHeyd Meneide wrote: > Taking the correction into account *nod* > What you've presented here is your word ("This > accusation is outright false, beyond any possible doubt."), True, I didn't claim to be offering evidence, and that didn't seem necessary since all the su

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread JeanHeyd Meneide via Gcc
Dear Alfred and Alexandre, It seems that neither of you would like to offer any evidence that counteracts what I have already been given by multiple individuals. Furthermore, Alexandre: > A misguided person thought that reciprocating the doxxing against RMS > was a good way to defend him. I

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Franz Fehringer via Gcc
To me (not being a contributor) this is the best contribution to the discussion so far. Am 30.03.2021 um 17:24 schrieb Maksim Fomin via Gcc: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, 26 March 2021 г., 23:02, Nathan Sidwell wrote: I would rather not have to write this email. Like many

Interested In extend the static analysis pass

2021-03-31 Thread Gagandeep Bhatia via Gcc
Code, your idea on extend the static analysis pass is really impressive. Right now the code is in GCC’s master branch for GCC 10 and can be tried out on Compiler Explorer, aka godbolt.org. It works well for small and medium-sized examples, but there are bugs that mean it’s not ready for producti

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
en and captures my thoughts when writing my response to Nathan (but not willing to spend so much time on this to coherently formulate what I was thinking). And just to repeat - all the GCC governance structure (the "SC") represents all of the same non-openess as the FSF governance struct

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
be imploding (with mass resignations in the past week). I don't think GCC benefits from being associated with either of them. Is there any incident where FSF being the copyright holder for GCC has made a difference? Are there any GPL violations involving GCC code that were resolved only because all cop

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 13:29, Richard Biener wrote: > And just to repeat - all the GCC governance structure (the "SC") represents > all of the same non-openess as the FSF governance structure (because > the "SC" is in fact appointed by the Chief GNUisance "or his

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:36 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > You are referencing the recent open letter which isn't really what > > people are discussing here. Although many probably sympathize with &

Re: Interested In extend the static analysis pass

2021-03-31 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
Just one comment ... On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:30, Gagandeep Bhatia via Gcc wrote: > Right now the code is in GCC’s master branch for GCC 10 N.B. the master branch is for GCC 11. Make sure you are using that, not the gcc-10 branch, as there are lots of improvements to the static analysis code.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 2:59 PM David Edelsohn wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Richard Biener via Gcc > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:36 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > > > You are referencing the recent open letter which isn't

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 14:30, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > But people, groups and incentives changes. > Stallman does not. Well, he's not immortal. Are you really suggesting that his crowning achievement (the free software movement and copyleft) is actually not sustainable, and only works if he's watchi

Re: Interested In extend the static analysis pass

2021-03-31 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 16:59 +0530, Gagandeep Bhatia via Gcc wrote: > Hey Team GNU Compiler, I'm Gagandeep Bhatia, currently pursuing the > 2nd year at Christ University, Bangalore, India. You can reach me at > gagandeepbhatia2...@gmail.com <mailto:gagandeepbhatia2...@gmail.com>

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 11:34 PM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi Giacomo, > > On Tue, Mar

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Paul Koning via Gcc
I may have lost it in the enormous flood of text, but I want to ask these general questions. 1. Is there a published code of conduct for GCC community members, possibly different ones depending on which level of the organization you're in? 2. Is there a formal process for receiving clai

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 at 1:28 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Mark Wielaard" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi Mark, > > I'm a bit in

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 16:18 +0200, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: [...snip...] > As for the "safe spaces" phase, this is about eliminating anything > and > everything that could emotionally troubling students. This assumes a > high > degree of fragility among weste

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Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:46 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * David Edelsohn via Gcc: > > > Has the GCC SC blocked any new port or major feature? Not that I'm aware > > of. > > What about the plugin framework? The libgcc licensing change would > not have happe

Re: Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

2021-03-31 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:28 AM PKU via Gcc wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m trying to get my school to sign the copyright disclaimer. Unfortunately > the officials are reluctant to do that. Can anyone suggest what to do next? > > They claim that university owns copyright to my c

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Biener via Gcc
On March 31, 2021 5:23:09 PM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn wrote: >On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:46 AM Florian Weimer >wrote: >> >> * David Edelsohn via Gcc: >> >> > Has the GCC SC blocked any new port or major feature? Not that I'm >aware of. >>

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 at 2:56 AM > From: "David Malcolm" > To: "Christopher Dimech" , "Mark Wielaard" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > &

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-31 Thread Saloni Garg via Gcc
at's something new. I also didn't know that. I believe we can > > > shift our > > minimal example to just func() and remove main(). > > Yes - simpler is better with such examples. > > (Occasionally it's helpful to have "main" so that the resulting

Re: Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> They claim that university owns copyright to my code if I wrote it > for a school-related research project. That's potentially correct. And the purpose of them signing the disclaimer is to release that interest so that only you need to sign the assignment. The other way of doing it would be f

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

2021-03-31 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
xample 2, maybe spell out why it's a leak - when does the allocated buffer stop being referenceable? - you have a simple example of a false negative; is it possible to give a simple example of a false positive? (I think "new" is meant to raise an exception if it fails, so a diagnostic

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
[I previously sent this from another email account, but it seems to be lost. I am sending this on behalf of the GCC Steering Committee.] In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page based on his role in the GNU Project, though his role as a member of the Steering Committee has

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee (was: Remove RMS...)

2021-03-31 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On 3/31/2021 5:11 PM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: 10 out of 13 members of the GCC steering committee work either for American corporations (8), their subsidiaries (1) or an American University (1) recently covered by the press in India [3]. Also, 4 of these work for the same corporation (IBM / Red

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-01 Thread Andrea Corallo via Gcc
Giacomo Tesio writes: > Hi David, thanks for sharing! > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:27:29 -0400 David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote: > >> In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page >> based on his role in the GNU Project [...] >> we are removing him from

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