On Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:15 Oleg Endo, wrote:
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> On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 09:20 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote:
> >
> > I actually have to build my own toolchain instead of the one provided
> > by ARM, because to really NOT use C++ exceptions, you have to recompile
> > the whole libstdc++ with `-fno-exc
On 13/05/2020 00:48, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 23:39, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:57 Freddie Chopin, wrote:
Anyway... If you have to recompile the toolchain, the problem is still
there. Most of the people (like 99,666%) will not do that for variou
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 23:39, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:57 Freddie Chopin, wrote:
> > Anyway... If you have to recompile the toolchain, the problem is still
> > there. Most of the people (like 99,666%) will not do that for various
> > reasons. Some don't know how, some use o
On Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:57 Freddie Chopin, wrote:
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> On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 12:07 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > You're talking about C++ exceptions in general, but the problems you
> > mention seems to be issues with specific implementation properties.
>
> Possibly true, but this argument - th
On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 12:07 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> You're talking about C++ exceptions in general, but the problems you
> mention seems to be issues with specific implementation properties.
Possibly true, but this argument - that all the problems are related to
specific implementation and
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:17, Freddie Chopin wrote:
> The problem with C++ exceptions is that even in the most
> trivial of the programs and even if you don't explicitly
> use/catch/throw them, they instantly eat around 60 kB of ROM and quite
> a lot of RAM. With some hacking you can get down to ab
On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 09:20 +0200, Freddie Chopin wrote:
>
> I actually have to build my own toolchain instead of the one provided
> by ARM, because to really NOT use C++ exceptions, you have to recompile
> the whole libstdc++ with `-fno-exceptions -fno-rtti` (yes, I know they
> provide the "nano"
On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 17:14 +0200, Moritz Strübe wrote:
> I just wanted to point out that Herbceptions do not only fix
> performance
> issues, but also code-size problems. While anything below 4GB of RAM
> is
> considered under-powered for a PC, typical deep embedded
> environments
> have someth
Hey.
Am 11.05.2020 um 15:59 schrieb Thomas Neumann via Gcc:
In a way I am disagreeing with the paper, of course, in that I propose
to make the existing exception mechanism faster instead of inventing a
new exception mechanism. But what I agree on with P0709 is that it is
unfortunate that many pr
