Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread nkavv
Hi Andrew AFAICS GPL,v3+ restricts my freedom... I thought that its purpose was to protect my freedom. No. I don't simply want to pile on after everything that has been said, but this is a common misconception. It isn't the purpose of the GPL to protect the rights of developers to impose res

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/07/12 12:08, nk...@physics.auth.gr wrote: > AFAICS GPL,v3+ restricts my freedom... I thought that its purpose was > to protect my freedom. No. I don't simply want to pile on after everything that has been said, but this is a common misconception. It isn't the purpose of the GPL to protec

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Richard Kenner
> > b) write proprietary code, that links in only modules with > > the standard library exception. > > I guess I'm naturally going for b), that was the original intention. But most of GCC, which you are "linking in" by virtue of a custom interface, does *not* have the library exception, so you ar

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Robert Dewar
On 11/7/2012 8:17 AM, nk...@physics.auth.gr wrote: I disagree. I think you are wrong, however it is not really productive to express it. I would not casually ignore Richard's opinion, he has FAR more experience here than you do, and far more familiarity with the issues involved.

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread nkavv
Hi Richard, If you want to argue that, I'd suggest you not do so on this email list: it's not going to be well-received. I don't want to sound b@d@ss or something, even though I am ^_^. This is not my saying, just that my army colleagues wouldn't shake hands when I fulfilled my service. Ma

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Richard Kenner
> AFAICS GPL,v3+ restricts my freedom... If you want to argue that, I'd suggest you not do so on this email list: it's not going to be well-received. > I know I have come to a scheme that I will not violate the GPL. I disagree.

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread nkavv
Hi Robert, There are two comfortable ways to conform to the GPL. a) make all your own stuff GPL'ed b) write proprietary code, that links in only modules with the standard library exception. I guess I'm naturally going for b), that was the original intention. Anything else, and you are pret

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Richard Kenner
> I have a few questions to make sure that I will not violate the GPL,v3: If you have a legal question, you should ask an attorney who specializes in copyright law as it applies to computer software. Do not rely on anything you get as a response to your question online. The below is my opinion,

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Robert Dewar
I'm pretty certain I have correctly interpreted GPL,v3. I have good reasons to believe that. However, I'm willing to read your interpretation of the GPL,v3, if you have any. If you are certain enough, then you can of course proceed on that assumption. I have no interest in giving my opinion on t

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread nkavv
Hi, You can't expect to get legal advice from a list like this, and if you do get advice, you can't trust it. You have to consult an attorney to evaluate issues like this, and even then you can't get guaranteed definitive advice. Copyright issues are complex, as Supap Kirtsaeng is discovering in

Re: Questions regarding licensing issues

2012-11-07 Thread Robert Dewar
On 11/7/2012 5:52 AM, nk...@physics.auth.gr wrote: 1. Is it possible to use this scheme and not violate the GPL,v3 for GCC? If I use GIMPLE dumps generated by "-fdump-tree-all" I think there is a violation (correct me if not). Thus this module should be FLOSS/GPL'ed, right? You can't expect to