Re: PATCH COMMITTED: Don't break tests for enum in range

2007-06-08 Thread Richard Kenner
> With Java the middle end should never see an uninitialized variable. > Uninitialized variables are precluded by the language definition, or > the bytecode verifier. Then if there's no other way in the language to create an undefined value, Java should certainly use the "undefined" choice, like C

Re: PATCH COMMITTED: Don't break tests for enum in range

2007-06-08 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Richard" == Richard Kenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> The simplest example of that is an uninitialized variable. Richard> I think the best approach is to use flags set by the front Richard> end to indicate which of these is to be the case. For C, I Richard> believe (1) is always

Re: PATCH COMMITTED: Don't break tests for enum in range

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Kenner
> So, the most obvious answer to these points is that arithmetic is > always performed in a type where TYPE_MIN/MAX_VALUE is > naturally defined and so we can rely on two's complement arithmetic. Right. In the Ada case, that's required by the language anyway. > The question that is retained is,

Re: PATCH COMMITTED: Don't break tests for enum in range

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Guenther
On 6/7/07, Richard Kenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Moved to gcc list from gcc-patches]. > > So now objects can have values outside of their type? > > If we accept that it is correct that TYPE_PRECISION is not synonymous > with TYPE_MIN_VALUE and TYPE_MAX_VALUE, then, yes, objects can have > v

Re: PATCH COMMITTED: Don't break tests for enum in range

2007-06-07 Thread Richard Kenner
[Moved to gcc list from gcc-patches]. > > So now objects can have values outside of their type? > > If we accept that it is correct that TYPE_PRECISION is not synonymous > with TYPE_MIN_VALUE and TYPE_MAX_VALUE, then, yes, objects can have > values outside of their type (isn't that the whole poin