Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-21 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> I would prefer it go on savannah, which is more clearly unaffiliated Mark> with any particular commercial entity. Ok, I submitted a request there. Tom

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-20 Thread Mark Mitchell
Tom Tromey wrote: > I am leaning toward putting it into the rhug repository on > sourceware.org, simply because then we (the gcj hackers) won't have to > go through some long project registration process. Speak up if you > have a particular problem with this. Thanks! I would prefer it go on sav

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-20 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> The FSF and GCC SC have decided to move fastjar to savannah, and Mark> stop including it in future GCC releases, which will clarify Mark> this situation. Will someone please volunteer to migrate Mark> fastjar out of our repository?

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-18 Thread Robert Dewar
Mark Mitchell wrote: My guess is that it's OK to include the Sun code, since it's in the public domain. This may just be nit-picking, but the above notice doesn't put the code into the public domain. Sun still owns the copyright of the software. Actually notices at the start of files have ve

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread David Edelsohn
> Joe Buck writes: Ben> Please specify exactly what you want, and who at the FSF I talk to. Joe> If you have messages giving past discussions of the issue, all the better. If you have a message from the FSF approving the current situation, it would be extremely helpful if you either

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Ross Ridge wrote: > Richard Guenther wrote: >> /* >> * >> * Copyright (C) 1993 by Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. >> * >> * Developed at SunPro, a Sun Microsystems, Inc. business. >> * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distrib

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Buck
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 05:09:17PM -0600, Benjamin Kosnik wrote: > > > As previously stated, if there is contrary information from FSF lawyers, > > then please gather it and present it to the FSF. > > Please specify exactly what you want, and who at the FSF I talk to. I am not Mark, but I sugges

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Benjamin Kosnik wrote: >> As previously stated, if there is contrary information from FSF lawyers, >> then please gather it and present it to the FSF. > > Please specify exactly what you want, and who at the FSF I talk to. I don't want anything in particular. I can assure you that my idea of a g

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Ross Ridge
Richard Guenther wrote: > /* > * > * Copyright (C) 1993 by Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. > * > * Developed at SunPro, a Sun Microsystems, Inc. business. > * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this > * software is

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Benjamin Kosnik
> As previously stated, if there is contrary information from FSF lawyers, > then please gather it and present it to the FSF. Please specify exactly what you want, and who at the FSF I talk to. Please do so on-list. -benjamin

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Buck
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:05:17PM -0800, Mark Mitchell wrote: > Benjamin Kosnik wrote: > >>> The STL files in libstdc++-v3 need to be clearly marked as not part of > >>> GCC. Benjamin, will you please take care of that, by modifying the > >>> libstdc++-v3/README to indicate that the files origina

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Mark Mitchell wrote: > Benjamin Kosnik wrote: The STL files in libstdc++-v3 need to be clearly marked as not part of GCC. Benjamin, will you please take care of that, by modifying the libstdc++-v3/README to indicate that the files originally from HP are not part of GCC, and spe

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Benjamin Kosnik wrote: >>> The STL files in libstdc++-v3 need to be clearly marked as not part of >>> GCC. Benjamin, will you please take care of that, by modifying the >>> libstdc++-v3/README to indicate that the files originally from HP are >>> not part of GCC, and specifically list those files?

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Benjamin Kosnik
> > The STL files in libstdc++-v3 need to be clearly marked as not part of > > GCC. Benjamin, will you please take care of that, by modifying the > > libstdc++-v3/README to indicate that the files originally from HP are > > not part of GCC, and specifically list those files? Huh? What are you

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Richard Guenther wrote: > I'll try my best. And I take it as granted that I can turn to RMS in the case > we only get the usual reactions like > http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2005-07/msg8.html Yes, I think RMS would like FSF maintainers to behave civilly. He did explicitly indicate in

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Richard Guenther wrote: | | > Remembering the patches from Joseph these were from a different part | > of GLIBC than I imported. I imported parts of sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32 and | > dbl-64 which contain C implementations of C99 math intrinsics such as |

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 17 Mar 2006 23:27:35 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | > | > I am confused. My interest in libgcc-math is that it helps solve > | > thorny issues with libstdc++-v3 and my expectation is that we can ma

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | | > I am confused. My interest in libgcc-math is that it helps solve | > thorny issues with libstdc++-v3 and my expectation is that we can make | > modification to libgcc-math so that we can't advantage of it. Now, I | > unde

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 3/17/06, Mike Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Mark Mitchell wrote: > > So, I think you should remove the dbl-64 code until this is > > resolved, or at least prevent it > > from being compiled by removing whatever Makefile bits compile it > > :-( At the outside, I

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 3/17/06, Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Guenther wrote: > > > Remembering the patches from Joseph these were from a different part > > of GLIBC than I imported. I imported parts of sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32 and > > dbl-64 which contain C implementations of C99 math intrinsics s

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Stump
On Mar 17, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Mark Mitchell wrote: So, I think you should remove the dbl-64 code until this is resolved, or at least prevent it from being compiled by removing whatever Makefile bits compile it :-( At the outside, I'd say that in 7 days it should not be in mainline nor any r

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Richard Guenther wrote: > Remembering the patches from Joseph these were from a different part > of GLIBC than I imported. I imported parts of sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32 and > dbl-64 which contain C implementations of C99 math intrinsics such as > sin and cos. The flt-32 parts are public domain as i

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Joe Buck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 01:23:36PM -0800, Mark Mitchell wrote: >> Richard Guenther wrote: >>> Do I understand this correctly that the upstream GLIBC versions of the >>> files will get their license changed, or will this happen only in the GCC >>> copy? >> Only in the GCC copy. >

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Richard Guenther wrote: > I understand it in the way that we should modify the imported parts > upstream (or not), while we can for sure add glues and wrappers or > other thinks to libgcc-math. Yes, you can add glue/wrappers. > So this discussion only affects flt-32 > and dbl-64 directories. I

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > I am confused. My interest in libgcc-math is that it helps solve > thorny issues with libstdc++-v3 and my expectation is that we can make > modification to libgcc-math so that we can't advantage of it. Now, I > understand that we cannot make modification to libgcc-math

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 17 Mar 2006 22:44:37 +0100, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > | >> Because RMS has approved the use of GLIBC's software floating-point code > | >> in GCC's runtime libraries, using GPL + exception, the correct thing for > | >> J

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | >> Because RMS has approved the use of GLIBC's software floating-point code | >> in GCC's runtime libraries, using GPL + exception, the correct thing for | >> Joseph Myers to do with his recent patch is to mark those files as not | >> part of GCC,

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 3/17/06, Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Guenther wrote: > > On 3/17/06, Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Because RMS has approved the use of GLIBC's software floating-point code > >> in GCC's runtime libraries, using GPL + exception, the correct thing for > >> Jo

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Joe Buck
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 01:23:36PM -0800, Mark Mitchell wrote: > Richard Guenther wrote: > > Do I understand this correctly that the upstream GLIBC versions of the > > files will get their license changed, or will this happen only in the GCC > > copy? > > Only in the GCC copy. Maybe we should che

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Mark Mitchell
Richard Guenther wrote: > On 3/17/06, Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Richard Guenther, would you please add a README to libgcc-math >> explaining that it that the GLIBC code is not part of GCC, as per the >> web page above? Also, please document that all of the GLIBC files are > > I

Re: FSF Policy re. inclusion of source code from other projects in GCC

2006-03-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On 3/17/06, Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Guenther, would you please add a README to libgcc-math > explaining that it that the GLIBC code is not part of GCC, as per the > web page above? Also, please document that all of the GLIBC files are I will do so. > not to be changed,