Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Feb 26, 2006, at 4:40 PM, David Edelsohn wrote: Gerald Pfeifer writes: Gerald> For the record, I reviewed both the Mission Statement and the GCC 4.1 Gerald> release criteria. Neither is really applicable. My comment said "my understanding". You interpret them differently. Nei

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread David Edelsohn
> Gerald Pfeifer writes: Gerald> For the record, I reviewed both the Mission Statement and the GCC 4.1 Gerald> release criteria. Neither is really applicable. My comment said "my understanding". You interpret them differently. Neither of us is representing the entire GCC SC in eit

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, David Edelsohn wrote: >Andrew> Your attitude towards Joern's request for help with a regression was >really >Andrew> what got my over the board. Your suggestion that a primary target was >more >Andrew> important even for an enhancement matter than over a regression was >real

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Mitchell
Geoffrey Keating wrote: > Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>However, the PowerPC GNU/Linux community seems to want this feature very >>badly, and has suggested that failure to incorporate these patches in >>GCC 4.1 would be very bad. My feeling is that it is the PowerPC >>community

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Keating
Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, the PowerPC GNU/Linux community seems to want this feature very > badly, and has suggested that failure to incorporate these patches in > GCC 4.1 would be very bad. My feeling is that it is the PowerPC > community which will be harmed if they g

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread David Edelsohn
> Andrew Pinski writes: Andrew> Your attitude towards Joern's request for help with a regression was really Andrew> what got my over the board. Your suggestion that a primary target was more Andrew> important even for an enhancement matter than over a regression was really Andrew> out of l

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Mitchell
Mark Mitchell wrote: >>it misses the point that many important resources in GCC are being used in >>fixing and testing this new feature, instead of putting GCC in shape for the >>release. So the release has been already delayed because of this, and will be >>even more. That's something which alrea

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Andrew Pinski
> > > Giovanni Bajo writes: > > Giovanni> This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the > policy is > Giovanni> not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? The people > involved in this > Giovanni> change have been working on GCC much longer than those who (later)

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Mitchell
Giovanni Bajo wrote: > This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the policy is > not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? No, that burden falls on the Release Manager. However, the SC has also given me considerable latitude to exercise my judgement, which I did. I

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread David Edelsohn
> Giovanni Bajo writes: Giovanni> This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the policy is Giovanni> not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? The people involved in this Giovanni> change have been working on GCC much longer than those who (later) objected. Giova

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Ulrich Weigand
Gerald Pfeiffer wrote: > Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree > with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC > 4.1 at this point in the release cycle. > > It is clearly against our development model and negatively impacts our > schedule

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Mark Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I've indicated before, I'm not pleased with this situation either. > It was as much a surprise to me as anyone. There is no question that > this change is not in keeping with our branch policy. > [...] > Also, at the time these changes were suggeste

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-05 Thread Mark Mitchell
Joe Buck wrote: > I agree that the matter should have been raised far earlier, and that > glibc decisions of this kind should be coordinated with gcc, and in this > case the issue should have been discussed far earlier. Yes, I completely agree. In fact, I think everyone agrees; Roland has sugges

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-04 Thread Joe Buck
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:12:54PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree > with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC > 4.1 at this point in the release cycle. I don't like it either, but what's the altern

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-04 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Ulrich Weigand wrote: > This is OK for mainline and 4.1. > Please cite PR target/25864 in the ChangeLog entry. Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC 4.1 at this point in the