On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 6:11 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> with all respect with your personal history, your contributions and
> choices, I think you are still missing the point.
This conversation is going on circles. You do not seem to hear what I
am saying, and you are telling me that I am not he
> Yet enough to slow down certain developments such as Nathan's libcody
> or the plugin framework.
The SC had no role in that, as was discussed here.
> You can also put trustworthy and credible observers to protect the
> interests of the global Free Software movement.
How is an "observer" going
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 at 1:10 AM
> From: "Giacomo Tesio"
> To: "Ian Lance Taylor"
> Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell"
> Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee
>
> Ian,
>
> with all respect wi
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 at 1:10 AM
> From: "Giacomo Tesio"
> To: "Ian Lance Taylor"
> Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell"
> Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee
>
> Ian,
>
> with all respect wi
Thanks Kenner...
On April 4, 2021 1:49:57 PM UTC, ken...@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu wrote:
> > I'm scared by the dangerous influence that dangeours US corporations
> > and a dangerous military nation with a long history of human rights
> > violations (see Snowden's and Assange's revelations and the ongoi
> I'm scared by the dangerous influence that dangeours US corporations
> and a dangerous military nation with a long history of human rights
> violations (see Snowden's and Assange's revelations and the ongoing
> Assange's trial) HAVE over the GCC development.
I agree that that's a concern, but th
Ian,
with all respect with your personal history, your contributions and
choices, I think you are still missing the point.
On April 3, 2021 11:45:23 PM UTC, Ian Lance Taylor
wrote:
> But you have singled out removing RMS (who as David noted was never
> really a member of the committee anyhow)
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021, 00:46 Ian Lance Taylor via Gcc, wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:31 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> >
> > But apparently you cannot decide which US-corporation should be thrown.
> > (indeed US-corporations hold the vast majoirity of SC heads, right now).
>
As it clearly says on
As we have expressed, the GCC Steering Committee doesn't micromanage
the development of GCC. The technical decisions are made by the
Release Managers and the various maintainers. But if you want to play
nationality bingo, let's play and see what we find, shall we?
The three GCC Release Managers
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:31 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> I'm still just one Italian hacker: all the huge imbalances that the
> removal of the only FSF and GNU member of the Steering Committee
> uncovered, are still there!
As far as I can tell, the imbalances you refer to are the fact that
the GCC
If you have nothing to contribute except these diatribes, please give it a
rest.
If you really think "being American" is a bigger image problem than "being
RMS" then you are part of the problem here.
Hi Ian, Gerald and GCC all
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:25:34 -0700 Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:06 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry for this long mail that rivals with the original Nathan's
> > request, but I wanted to back my request properly.
>
> This is free softw
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> Oh well, sure, but luckily the solution is just as fast and easy as
> it was to remove RMS: pick just one person for each nationality and
> remove the others.
Why nationalities? That strikes me as a rather specific view focusing on
one of many attributes
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:06 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> I'm sorry for this long mail that rivals with the original Nathan's
> request, but I wanted to back my request properly.
This is free software. If you want to make it better, then make it
better. The EGCS branch that displaced and became G
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 at 2:06 AM
> From: "Giacomo Tesio"
> To: "Jonathan Wakely"
> Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , "Nathan Sidwell"
> Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee
>
> Dear Jonathan,
>
> ever
Dear Jonathan,
everybody can see it...
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:05:10 +0100 Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 11:06, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> > But from outside your "cultural bubble", we all see that a bunch of
> > highly controversial [3][4] US corporations (with long term ties
> > wit
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 11:06, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> But from outside your "cultural bubble", we all see that a bunch of
> highly controversial [3][4] US corporations (with long term ties with
> the USA DoD [5]) are kicking out of the GCC Steering Committee their
> only connection with both the FSF
d Meneide"
> Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee
>
> Hello Thomas, Jonathan, David, Nathan Jean and... everybody. :-)
>
>
> I'm sorry for this long mail that rivals with the original Nathan's
> request, but I wanted
Hello Thomas, Jonathan, David, Nathan Jean and... everybody. :-)
I'm sorry for this long mail that rivals with the original Nathan's
request, but I wanted to back my request properly.
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:25:23 -0700 Thomas Rodgers wrote:
> Not to argue counter to the observation that there
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 10:13, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, 01:05 Giacomo Tesio, wrote:
>>
>>
>> People all over the world, whatever their country, should be sure to be
>> treated fairly and equally by the GCC leaders even if they want to
>> contribute something that does not m
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, 01:05 Giacomo Tesio, wrote:
>
> People all over the world, whatever their country, should be sure to be
> treated fairly and equally by the GCC leaders even if they want to
> contribute something that does not match the culture or interests you
> represent.
>
Everybody is we
Giacomo Tesio writes:
> Hi David, thanks for sharing!
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:27:29 -0400 David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote:
>
>> In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page
>> based on his role in the GNU Project [...]
>> we are removing him from the page.
>
> I have to admit that
On 2021-03-31 17:04, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
Hi Jeff,
thanks for fixing your affiliation, but let me note that it doesn't
change a dime for the geopolitical-diversity issue that affects GCC
since before RMS joined the Steering Committee.
Not to argue counter to the observation that there is cle
Hi Jeff,
thanks for fixing your affiliation, but let me note that it doesn't
change a dime for the geopolitical-diversity issue that affects GCC
since before RMS joined the Steering Committee.
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:35:36 -0600 Jeff Law wrote:
> > To me, and to billions of people, this shows a
On 3/31/2021 5:11 PM, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
10 out of 13 members of the GCC steering committee work either for
American corporations (8), their subsidiaries (1) or an American
University (1) recently covered by the press in India [3].
Also, 4 of these work for the same corporation (IBM / Red Ha
Hi David, thanks for sharing!
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:27:29 -0400 David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote:
> In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page
> based on his role in the GNU Project [...]
> we are removing him from the page.
I have to admit that I had never carefully observed the
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