Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via Gcc
> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:22 AM, David Starner via Gcc wrote: > > Giacomo Tesio wrote: >> ... >> Please, do not create a hostile environment for indipendent contributors. > > What do you mean by independent? If you're independently wealthy and > don't need to work, you can avoid this. If you're

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread David Starner via Gcc
Giacomo Tesio wrote: > And while this is IBM, the other US corporations with affiliations in the Steering Committee are no better: https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-April/235777.html > I can understand that some of you consider working for such corporations "a > joy". > But for the rest of u

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Schmidt via Gcc
On 4/20/21 7:42 AM, Richard Kenner via Gcc wrote: Troubling indeed, but this might just be an overzealous manager. IBM, like other corporations, has made significant technical contributions to GCC over the years, for example the scheduler and the vectorizer, and thus has assigned the copyright of

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Hi David, I'm amused to see how far you can go to rationalize such a clear statement: "You are an IBM employee 100% of the time." This is the kind of control these companies think they deserve over their employees. And when they refuse to obey, they are fired, like Timnit Gebru. To me, the

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> Troubling indeed, but this might just be an overzealous manager. > IBM, like other corporations, has made significant technical > contributions to GCC over the years, for example the scheduler and > the vectorizer, and thus has assigned the copyright of these > contributions to the FSF. Yes, as

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. For those who aren't aware of it, this has been IBM's position for many decades. It's not a new position. But they are unique in the extremeness of their position on this, so generalizing this would be a mistake.

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Kalamatee via Gcc
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 11:21, David Brown wrote: > On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > Hi GCC developers, > > > > just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is > highly problematic, > > I'd like you to give a look at this commit > > message over Linux MAINTAINERS

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
rom: "David Brown" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC > Steering Committee > > On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > Hi GCC developers, > > > > just

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread David Brown
On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > Hi GCC developers, > > just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is highly > problematic, > I'd like you to give a look at this commit > message over Linux MAINTAINERS > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
obey." "When I hear the voice say, 'Now, listen to me, ' I will obey." > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 7:37 PM > From: "Eric Botcazou" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: On US corporate influence over Free Soft

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Eric Botcazou
> Here the relevant excerpt (but please go chech the quotation): > > "As an IBM employee, you are not allowed to use your gmail account to work > in any way on VNIC. You are not allowed to use your personal email account > as a "hobby". You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. > Please remove you

On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-19 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Hi GCC developers, just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is highly problematic, I'd like you to give a look at this commit message over Linux MAINTAINERS https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git/commit/?id=4acd47644ef1e1c8f8f5bc40b7cf1c5b9bcbbc4