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2022-11-12 Thread Bdazzle McGregor via Gcc
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Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via Gcc
here your name might be associated with the company, then your > employer may demand that you cease publicly working on Free Software. Not necessarily. I'll offer you my own example. I'm the target maintainer for pdp11. It should be obvious that I'm doing this as an "independen

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread David Starner via Gcc
e company, then your employer may demand that you cease publicly working on Free Software. I find it a bit hypocritical; there's no objection to the fact that GCC was developed using stuff bought with funds donated by these companies, their creators and their employees, to MIT, including peo

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Schmidt via Gcc
On 4/20/21 7:42 AM, Richard Kenner via Gcc wrote: Troubling indeed, but this might just be an overzealous manager. IBM, like other corporations, has made significant technical contributions to GCC over the years, for example the scheduler and the vectorizer, and thus has assigned the copyright of

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Hi David, I'm amused to see how far you can go to rationalize such a clear statement: "You are an IBM employee 100% of the time." This is the kind of control these companies think they deserve over their employees. And when they refuse to obey, they are fired, like Timnit Gebru. To me, the

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> Troubling indeed, but this might just be an overzealous manager. > IBM, like other corporations, has made significant technical > contributions to GCC over the years, for example the scheduler and > the vectorizer, and thus has assigned the copyright of these > contributions to the FSF. Yes, as

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. For those who aren't aware of it, this has been IBM's position for many decades. It's not a new position. But they are unique in the extremeness of their position on this, so generalizing this would be a mistake.

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Kalamatee via Gcc
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 11:21, David Brown wrote: > On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > Hi GCC developers, > > > > just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is > highly problematic, > > I'd like you to give a look at this commit > > message over Linux MAINTAINERS

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
You got to understand what an employee 100% of the time means. It means to be 100% Employer-Owned - It is the Culture of Ownership. But the tyrannical double standard do-gooders and the continued pretense that they're trying to help people in this society (e.g. women, minorities, free sof

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread David Brown
On 20/04/2021 08:54, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > Hi GCC developers, > > just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is highly > problematic, > I'd like you to give a look at this commit > message over Linux MAINTAINERS > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Christopher Dimech via Gcc
obey." "When I hear the voice say, 'Now, listen to me, ' I will obey." > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 7:37 PM > From: "Eric Botcazou" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: On US corporate influence over Free Soft

Re: On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-20 Thread Eric Botcazou
> Here the relevant excerpt (but please go chech the quotation): > > "As an IBM employee, you are not allowed to use your gmail account to work > in any way on VNIC. You are not allowed to use your personal email account > as a "hobby". You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. > Please remove you

On US corporate influence over Free Software and the GCC Steering Committee

2021-04-19 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Hi GCC developers, just to further clarify why I think the current Steering Committee is highly problematic, I'd like you to give a look at this commit message over Linux MAINTAINERS https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git/commit/?id=4acd47644ef1e1c8f8f5bc40b7cf1c5b9bcbbc4

RE: COTS:[urgent]: [External]:Information required on security-related patches under Free Software Foundation

2019-10-29 Thread Kumar, Dhanalakshmi
esday, October 29, 2019 6:36 PM To: Kumar, Dhanalakshmi Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org; DL-INTVULMGMT ; B&FApps_VulnerabilityManagement Subject: Re: COTS:[urgent]: [External]:Information required on security-related patches under Free Software Foundation On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 13:02, Jonathan Wakely wrot

Re: COTS:[urgent]: [External]:Information required on security-related patches under Free Software Foundation

2019-10-29 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 13:02, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 12:15, Kumar, Dhanalakshmi > wrote: > > > > Hi Team, > > > > > > > > Could you please provide the latest market version for the Application (as > > mentioned in the below table) > > > > > > > > Business Application N

Re: COTS:[urgent]: [External]:Information required on security-related patches under Free Software Foundation

2019-10-29 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 12:15, Kumar, Dhanalakshmi wrote: > > Hi Team, > > > > Could you please provide the latest market version for the Application (as > mentioned in the below table) > > > > Business Application Name > > Honeywell Version Installed > GNU COMPILER COLLECTION > gcc-8 (SUSE Linux)

COTS:[urgent]: [External]:Information required on security-related patches under Free Software Foundation

2019-10-29 Thread Kumar, Dhanalakshmi
Hi Team, Could you please provide the latest market version for the Application (as mentioned in the below table) Business Application Name Honeywell Version Installed GNU COMPILER COLLECTION gcc-8 (SUSE Linux) 8.2.1 20180831 [gcc-8-branch revision 264010] Is there any security fixes ava

GCC Development Plan - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)

2019-09-08 Thread piti rbr
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Re: GNU Toolchain Fund established at the Free Software Foundation

2017-03-10 Thread Jim Wilson
On 03/10/2017 03:08 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:49 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: As discussed at the last Cauldron, the first interest of the community seems to be the shared infrastructure of Sourceware: hosting, sys

Re: GNU Toolchain Fund established at the Free Software Foundation

2017-03-09 Thread David Edelsohn
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:49 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: >> A fund to benefit the components of the GNU Toolchain (GCC, GDB, >> GLIBC, Binutils, Sourceware) has been established at the Free Software >> Foundatio

Re: GNU Toolchain Fund established at the Free Software Foundation

2017-03-09 Thread Ian Lance Taylor via gcc
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:49 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: > A fund to benefit the components of the GNU Toolchain (GCC, GDB, > GLIBC, Binutils, Sourceware) has been established at the Free Software > Foundation. > > Personal and corporate donations are welcome! > > http:/

GNU Toolchain Fund established at the Free Software Foundation

2017-03-09 Thread David Edelsohn
A fund to benefit the components of the GNU Toolchain (GCC, GDB, GLIBC, Binutils, Sourceware) has been established at the Free Software Foundation. Personal and corporate donations are welcome! http://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-toolchain-now-accepting-donations-with-the-support-of-the-free-software

clang vs free software

2014-11-22 Thread Ruben Safir
a to exclude political and social ramifications from the software design and use decisions... It so happens that over the long hall, the free software ends up being technologically superiormost often. But this is besides the point. <> Clearly this is a complete break off now of the BSD community

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-24 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Chris Lattner skribis: > On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: >> (Hint: read http://vmakarov.fedorapeople.org/spec/ as an example of a >> better-supported point of view.) > > Unrelated to this thread, it would be great for this web page to get updated. > You may find it to be "

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] In the free software movement, we campaign for the freedom of the users of comp

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-24 Thread Duncan Sands
Hi Vladimir, o Comparing LLVM and GCC on Fortran benchmarks. LLVM has no fortran FE and just quietly call system GCC. So comparison of LLVM and GCC on Fortran benchmarks means comparison of system GCC and a given GCC. a few people are working on LLVM based Fortran compilers. I'm not sure how

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:52:00PM -0500, Vladimir Makarov wrote: > o IMHO, the data in articles lack credability may be because a wrong > setup (by me or by phoronix). E.g. I tried to reproduce Scimark > results for GCC4.8 and LLVM3.3 from his article "LLVM Clang 3.4 > Already Has Some Performanc

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Vladimir Makarov
Sorry, I forgot that pdf file is not permitted. Therefore I am resending my email without it. On 1/23/2014, 5:56 PM, Chris Lattner wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: (Hint: read http://vmakarov.fedorapeople.org/spec/ as an example of a better-supported point of view.

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Toon Moene
On 01/24/2014 12:12 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: On 23 January 2014 22:56, Chris Lattner wrote: Unrelated to this thread, it would be great for this web page to get updated. You may find it to be "a better-supported point of view", but it is also comparing against clang 3.2, which is from the

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 23 January 2014 22:56, Chris Lattner wrote: > > Unrelated to this thread, it would be great for this web page to get updated. > You may find it to be "a better-supported point of view", but it is also > comparing against clang 3.2, which is from the end of 2012, and a lot has > changed since

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Xinliang David Li
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Chris Lattner wrote: > On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: >> (Hint: read http://vmakarov.fedorapeople.org/spec/ as an example of a >> better-supported point of view.) > > Unrelated to this thread, it would be great for this web page to get update

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Lattner
On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: > (Hint: read http://vmakarov.fedorapeople.org/spec/ as an example of a > better-supported point of view.) Unrelated to this thread, it would be great for this web page to get updated. You may find it to be "a better-supported point of view",

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Steven Bosscher
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > (Redirected to the proper lists, excluding emacs-devel.) This is not the proper list. "gcc@ is a ... list for general development discussions about GCC." (xf http://gcc.gnu.org/lists.html). Most of this pointless discussion has nothing to d

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread David Edelsohn
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >> Maybe nobody bothers because using clang is easier than to fight with >> FSF policies. > > Which is pretty close if not identical to my original point. Your original point came across as a complaint that GCC does not support plugins bec

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 23 January 2014 17:49, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > (Redirected to the proper lists, excluding emacs-devel.) Why do you think the gcc list is the proper place? > The clang people aren't just a technical challenge to GCC, they're a > philosophical/political one to the FSF as well. They are explic

Re: clang vs free software

2014-01-23 Thread Eric S. Raymond
o the gcc list: "is there are reason for not making the [GCC] front ends dynamic libraries which could be linked by any program that wants to parse source code?" Carruth then quotes RMS: "One of our main goals for GCC is to prevent any parts of it from being used together with non-free

Compile Farm for GCC developpers and free software developpers

2006-11-09 Thread Laurent GUERBY
ers to maintain script machinery to help with GCC development on nine bi pentium 3 machines as well as GCC developers that are lacking x86 machine access. How to Get Involved ? If you are a GCC developer and want access to the compileFarm for GCC development and testing, or if you are a free so

Compile Farm for GCC developpers and free software developpers

2006-11-09 Thread Laurent GUERBY
ers to maintain script machinery to help with GCC development on nine bi pentium 3 machines as well as GCC developers that are lacking x86 machine access. How to Get Involved ? If you are a GCC developer and want access to the compileFarm for GCC development and testing, or if you are a free so