Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-10 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Apr 10 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > How do you access that data base ? NNTP ? Yes, at news.gmane.io. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-10 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/10/20 9:06 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Apr 10 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > >> Interesting point with gmane.io, do they have a web-interface? > > No. > Hmm. Not good. How do you access that data base ? NNTP ? Bernd. > Andreas. >

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-10 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Apr 10 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > Interesting point with gmane.io, do they have a web-interface? No. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-09 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 10:06 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Apr 02 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > >> What happens to the e-mails when they are not archive, but forwarded >> to the subscribers, like mark.info who just subscribes the mails, >> and archived them they have a lot of hard disks for that and can >>

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > > Regarding the overseers, they repeatedly spoke up on this list, > > but all the time they use an e-mail that bounces. > > No. ONE of the overseers replies from a personal email address that > bounces, because as the address clearly says, you

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 11:48 AM, Richard Sandiford wrote: > Bernd Edlinger writes: >> On 4/2/20 11:01 AM, Richard Sandiford wrote: >>> Bernd Edlinger writes: On 4/1/20 8:51 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Richard Sandiford
Bernd Edlinger writes: > On 4/2/20 11:01 AM, Richard Sandiford wrote: >> Bernd Edlinger writes: >>> On 4/1/20 8:51 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >> marc.info is an independent site that is no

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 11:09 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> Regarding the overseers, they repeatedly spoke up on this list, >> but all the time they use an e-mail that bounces. > > No. ONE of the overseers replies from a personal email address that > bounces,

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 11:01 AM, Richard Sandiford wrote: > Bernd Edlinger writes: >> On 4/1/20 8:51 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >>> On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > marc.info is an independent site that is not associated with > sourc

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > Regarding the overseers, they repeatedly spoke up on this list, > but all the time they use an e-mail that bounces. No. ONE of the overseers replies from a personal email address that bounces, because as the address clearly says, you should cont

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Richard Sandiford
Bernd Edlinger writes: > On 4/1/20 8:51 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >>> On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: marc.info is an independent site that is not associated with sourceware.org. We don't control it. If you have questions

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-02 Thread Andreas Schwab
On Apr 02 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > What happens to the e-mails when they are not archive, but forwarded > to the subscribers, like mark.info who just subscribes the mails, > and archived them they have a lot of hard disks for that and can > handle attachments quite well. The point is previou

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 7:13 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 09:57:05PM -0700, Unidef Defshrizzle wrote: >> We can setup a command line interface, maybe using CURSES, I mean GUIs are >> fun, but Jesus Christ they’re full of surprises > > Command line interface to what? > > You can read

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:29:58PM +0200, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists >that must be fixed by our overseers. > >As an example please look at this one: >https://marc.info/?l=gdb-patches&m=158571308379946&w=2 > >you see this: > >

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 09:57:05PM -0700, Unidef Defshrizzle wrote: >We can setup a command line interface, maybe using CURSES, I mean GUIs are >fun, but Jesus Christ they’re full of surprises Command line interface to what? You can read email using whatever interface your want. Archives are obv

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Unidef Defshrizzle
We can setup a command line interface, maybe using CURSES, I mean GUIs are fun, but Jesus Christ they’re full of surprises On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:35 PM Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 4/2/20 1:41 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 23:54, Joseph Myers wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 1 Apr

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 1:41 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 23:54, Joseph Myers wrote: >> >> On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> >>> PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists >>> that must be fixed by our overseers. >>> >>> That is the scubbed attachments.

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/2/20 12:54 AM, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > >> PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists >> that must be fixed by our overseers. >> >> That is the scubbed attachments. >> >> As an example please look at this one: >> https://m

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 23:54, Joseph Myers wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > > > PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists > > that must be fixed by our overseers. > > > > That is the scubbed attachments. > > > > As an example please look at this one:

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 21:30, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > @overseeers: PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY THAT SCRUBBING You're emailing the gcc list about the gdb-patches mailing list, and haven't CC'd the overseers list or the gdb list. > can you act now, or do you need a CVE number first ? That doesn't seem

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Joseph Myers
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > PS: I have a discovered a very serious problem with the mailing lists > that must be fixed by our overseers. > > That is the scubbed attachments. > > As an example please look at this one: > https://marc.info/?l=gdb-patches&m=158571308379946&w=2 The c

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-04-01 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 4/1/20 8:51 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> >>> marc.info is an independent site that is not associated with >>> sourceware.org. We don't control it. If you have questions about their >>> site then ask t

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-31 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/26/20 4:27 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:29:03PM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >>> -On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: > I believe the ca

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-30 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 18:46 +, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Jeff Law via Gcc wrote: > > > As an ex IT guy, I've gone both directions depending on the project I was > > supporting and certainly see the pros and cons of going highly customized vs > > as > > generic as possible

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:46:54PM +, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >I think being software developers we are in this comfortable position >that we can actually make changes to software ourselves if we find >problems or usability issues... > >For example I found it useful on a couple of occasions t

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-28 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Jeff Law via Gcc wrote: > As an ex IT guy, I've gone both directions depending on the project I was > supporting and certainly see the pros and cons of going highly customized vs > as > generic as possible. In my opinion Chris & Frank are doing the right thing > here > and

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-27 Thread Arseny Solokha
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 07:00:59AM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >>PS: I would CC you, Christopher Faylor, but your email address is >>"cgf-use-the-mailinglist-ple...@gnu.org", so whatever I send there >>would not reach you. > > Well duh? Not being cc'ed is the literal point of the email address.

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-27 Thread Jeff Law via Gcc
On Fri, 2020-03-27 at 10:45 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 07:00:59AM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > > PS: I would CC you, Christopher Faylor, but your email address is > > "cgf-use-the-mailinglist-ple...@gnu.org", so whatever I send there > > would not reach you. > > W

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-27 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 07:00:59AM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >PS: I would CC you, Christopher Faylor, but your email address is >"cgf-use-the-mailinglist-ple...@gnu.org", so whatever I send there >would not reach you. Well duh? Not being cc'ed is the literal point of the email address. Anyway

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-26 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > FWIW, this particular overseer is is also pretty exhausted from the > effort of moving sourceware to a new system + new software and would not > relish the effort involved in getting all of this moved to new software. > I am sorry, to hear tha

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-26 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/25/20 10:07 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:03:15PM +, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: >> See the link at the bottom of every page in the old archive: >> http://www.mhonarc.org/ >> >>> what is the exact problem that prevents it from being used any longer? >> >> It's

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-26 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/26/20 4:16 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:29:03PM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> -On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: I believe the canonical place for the "Linux suff" mailing lists

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:34:16PM +0100, Dmitry Mikushin wrote: >Maybe the best form of question is: Could the Overseer be so kind to >release the dump of the original old mailing list on any free public file >server? The old archives are still available via their old URLs, e.g., https://gcc.gnu.

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:29:03PM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >-On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: >>> I believe the canonical place for the "Linux suff" mailing lists these days >>> is >>> lore.kernel.org, powered by

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/25/20 9:29 PM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > Could you add a link to https://marc.info/?l=gcc-patches Why is above link no longer updating this is the last message there: 1. 2020-03-07 [5] [PATCH] c++: Fix ABI issue with alignas on armv7hl [P gcc-patch Jason Merrill is this a push or a pull wh

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Jakub Jelinek via Gcc
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 09:03:15PM +, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > See the link at the bottom of every page in the old archive: > http://www.mhonarc.org/ > > > what is the exact problem that prevents it from being used any longer? > > It's not packaged for RHEL 8. It is in EPEL8: https:/

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 20:29, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > > -On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: > >> I believe the canonical place for the "Linux suff" mailing lists these > >> days is > >> lore.kernel.org, powered by publi

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Dmitry Mikushin
Maybe the best form of question is: Could the Overseer be so kind to release the dump of the original old mailing list on any free public file server? ср, 25 мар. 2020 г. в 21:29, Bernd Edlinger : > -On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arsen

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Bernd Edlinger
-On 3/25/20 7:55 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: >> I believe the canonical place for the "Linux suff" mailing lists these days >> is >> lore.kernel.org, powered by public-inbox[1]. ISTM that software can address >> most >> if not al

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 04:23:02PM +0700, Arseny Solokha wrote: >I believe the canonical place for the "Linux suff" mailing lists these days is >lore.kernel.org, powered by public-inbox[1]. ISTM that software can address >most >if not all needs of those involved in GCC development and even has NNT

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Arseny Solokha
> On 3/25/20 8:58 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> On 3/25/20 8:32 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 04:48, Bernd Edlinger wrote: Hi, I do not want to start a flame war. I just am curious what was the reason why the old system cannot be used any mo

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/25/20 8:58 AM, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > On 3/25/20 8:32 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 04:48, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I do not want to start a flame war. >>> >>> I just am curious what was the reason why >>> the old system cannot be used any more? >> >> T

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Bernd Edlinger
On 3/25/20 8:32 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 04:48, Bernd Edlinger wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not want to start a flame war. >> >> I just am curious what was the reason why >> the old system cannot be used any more? > > The software it ran on hasn't been maintained for year

Re: Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 04:48, Bernd Edlinger wrote: > > Hi, > > I do not want to start a flame war. > > I just am curious what was the reason why > the old system cannot be used any more? The software it ran on hasn't been maintained for years. > Would there be a possibility to get the old look-a

Can we please have the old mailing list back

2020-03-24 Thread Bernd Edlinger
Hi, I do not want to start a flame war. I just am curious what was the reason why the old system cannot be used any more? Would there be a possibility to get the old look-and-feel back? Thanks Bernd.