Sourceware @ Conservancy - Year Two

2025-05-26 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware joined Conservancy as a member project on May 15 2023 https://sfconservancy.org/news/2023/may/15/sourceware-joins-sfc/ Sourceware has provided the infrastructure for core toolchain and developer tool projects for more than 25 years. https://sourceware.org/sourceware-25-roadmap.html Con

Sourceware Open Office Friday, May 9, 16:00 UTC

2025-05-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday May 9, 16:00 UTC At #overseers on irc.libera.chat To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri May 9 16:00 UTC 2025" - Got issues with the new Anubis "protection", please let us know! https://inbox.sourceware.org/20250421155940.ge2...@gnu.wildebeest.org - Want to discuss

Sourceware infrastructure updates for Q1 2025

2025-04-22 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware infrastructure community updates for Q1 2025 Sourceware has provided the infrastructure for core toolchain and developer tools projects for more than 25 years. https://sourceware.org/sourceware-25-roadmap.html Over the last couple of years, Sourceware has transformed from a purely volu

scraperbot protection - Patchwork and Bunsen behind Anubis

2025-04-21 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi hackers, TLDR; When using https://patchwork.sourceware.org or Bunsen https://builder.sourceware.org/testruns/ you might now have to enable javascript. This should not impact any scripts, just browsers (or bots pretending to be browsers). If it does cause trouble, please let us know. If this wor

Re: Accessability of the site gcc.gnu.org

2025-04-18 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 09:42:57PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 2025, 20:14 Siva Sai Manchem via Gcc, > wrote: > > We wanted to bring to your attention that one of our customers, who is > > utilizing Zscaler services, is currently facing difficulties accessing your >

Re: Something Blocking Access from Lockheed Martin External IP Space to gcc.gnu.org

2025-04-14 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 09:51:50PM +, justin.colon--- via Gcc wrote: > Hello GCC and GNU support, I am the proxy service lead for Lockheed > Martin and something seems to be blocking our traffic when our US > users try to reach https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/. Our Non-US users > do not hav

Re: Sourceware Cyber Security FAQ

2025-04-10 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 05:35:00PM +0100, Mark Wielaard via Overseers wrote: > After lots of discussions at some of our Open Office hours, at the > Cauldron, with other Software Freedom organizations and some of our > hardware and services providers we now have a Sourceware Cyber

Re: Sourceware Survey 2025

2025-03-28 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Fri, 2025-03-14 at 01:29 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > The Sourceware Project Leadership Committee would like to know who our > users are, which hosted projects they feel part of, what services they > rely on and what the priorities should be for new initiatives. &

Re: Sourceware Survey 2025

2025-03-24 Thread Mark Wielaard
> The Sourceware Project Leadership Committee would like to know who our > users are, which hosted projects they feel part of, what services they > rely on and what the priorities should be for new initiatives. > > https://nextcloud.sfconservancy.org/apps/forms/s/xmGgmJFzSb2FZNd58cXMtAZp We alrea

Re: gcc.gnu.org performance issues?

2025-03-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Harald, On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 10:29:13PM +0100, Harald Anlauf via Gcc wrote: > Am 15.08.24 um 21:31 schrieb Mark Wielaard: > >On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:31:12AM -0700, H.J. Lu via Gcc wrote: > >>On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:17 AM Harald Anlauf via Gcc > >>wrote

Re: gcc.gnu.org performance issues?

2025-03-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Harald, On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 10:57:08PM +0100, Harald Anlauf wrote: > I have never tried any complex setups besides simple ssh tunnels > with git in the past, so believe this does not apply. > > Doing even a simple ssh -Tvv to gcc.gnu.org takes a very long time > when trying in parallel to

Sourceware Survey 2025

2025-03-13 Thread Mark Wielaard
The Sourceware Project Leadership Committee would like to know who our users are, which hosted projects they feel part of, what services they rely on and what the priorities should be for new initiatives. https://nextcloud.sfconservancy.org/apps/forms/s/xmGgmJFzSb2FZNd58cXMtAZp The survey will ru

Sourceware Survey 2025

2025-03-13 Thread Mark Wielaard
The Sourceware Project Leadership Committee would like to know who our users are, which hosted projects they feel part of, what services they rely on and what the priorities should be for new initiatives. https://nextcloud.sfconservancy.org/apps/forms/s/xmGgmJFzSb2FZNd58cXMtAZp The survey will ru

Re: What branch to use for the Algol 68 front-end

2025-03-09 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jose, On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 02:17:52PM +0100, Jose E. Marchesi wrote: > > Since you already have a fork on the (experimental) forge we could > > also move your fork under https://forge.sourceware.org/gcc that way > > you can experiment with merge requests if you like. Even if all your > > pat

Re: What branch to use for the Algol 68 front-end

2025-03-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 03:57:40PM +, Richard Earnshaw (lists) via Gcc wrote: > On 07/03/2025 15:41, Jose E. Marchesi via Gcc wrote: > > The Steering Committee has decided not to merge the Algol 68 Front-End > > in master at this point, but is ok with us using a branch in gcc.git to > > d

Re: Commits not appearing in bugzilla

2025-02-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Thomas, Hi Arsen, On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 01:35:05PM +0100, Arsen Arsenović via Gcc wrote: > Thomas Koenig via Gcc writes: > > > (Incidentally, the mailing system messes up the UTF-8 represntation > > of my last name, König, maybe that is somehing to do with it). > > IIRC my commits were fai

Re: To access gcc.gnu.org received Forbiden

2025-02-14 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Antonio, On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 04:42:38PM -0300, Thomacelli via Gcc wrote: > Sorry if it is not the correct place to register this issue, but when I try > to access the Source Code of GCC on the Oficial Site, I > received this message: > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access t

Sourceware Open Valentine Office Friday, Feb 14, 16:00 UTC

2025-02-13 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Feb 14, 16:00 UTC At #overseers on irc.libera.chat To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Feb 14 16:00 UTC 2025" Valentine's day. Lets show our shared infrastructure some love! - Got issues with the new process/service isolation and/or the DDos protections? Please

Re: [wwwdocs] cannot access from brazil

2025-02-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Paulo, On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 11:34:57AM -0300, Paulo Almeida via Gcc wrote: > I cannot access the web pages from brazil. > event the about page https://gcc.gnu.org/about.html > gets me to 403 forbbiden. There was (is) a botnet attacking gcc and sourceware from Brazil. We might have blocked t

Re: Interest in Contributing Diagnostic System to GCC

2025-02-03 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Tuur, On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 09:46:37AM +, JohnyTheCarrot via Gcc wrote: > I'm in the process of writing my own C compiler for educational purposes. > To this end, I have decided to integrate into my compiler my own C++ > port ( https://github.com/johnythecarrot/mjolnir ) of the Rust crate

Re: Patch held up in gcc-patches due to size

2025-02-03 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Thomas, On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 07:09:14PM +0100, Thomas Koenig via Gcc wrote: > I sent https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/fortran/2025-February/061670.html > to gcc-patches also, as normal, but got back an e-mail that it > was too large. and that a moderator would look at it. I think that was done

New risc-v builder.sourceware.org CI workers (p550 and bpi-f3)

2025-01-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, Thanks to RISC-V International we got 3 new buildbot CI workers. One HiFive Premier P550 https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-premier-p550 and two Banana Pi BPI-F3 https://wiki.banana-pi.org/Banana_Pi_BPI-F3 They have been used for testing the proposed Valgrind risc-vv backend: https://bugs.

Re: Announcement: GCC BPF is now being tested on BPF CI

2025-01-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Ihor, On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:44:54PM +, Ihor Solodrai via Gcc wrote: > An example of successful test run (you have to login to github to see > the logs): > https://github.com/kernel-patches/bpf/actions/runs/12816136141/job/35736973856 > > Currently 2513 of 4340 tests pass for GCC BPF,

Sourceware Open Office Friday, Jan 10, 16:00 UTC

2025-01-09 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Jan 10, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Jan 10 16:00 UTC 2025" Lets celebrate what went well in 2024 and what we will do even better in 2025! Email? Patchwo

Sourceware infrastructure updates for Q4 2024

2024-12-20 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware infrastructure community updates for Q4 2024 Sourceware has provided the infrastructure for core toolchain and developer tools projects for more than 25 years. https://sourceware.org/sourceware-25-roadmap.html The last couple of years it has transformed from a purely volunteer into a p

Sourceware Open Office Friday, Dec 13, 16:00 UTC

2024-12-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Dec 13, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Dec 13 16:00 UTC 2024" Sourceware relies on cooperation among a broad diversity of core toolchain and developer tool

Re: gcc-wwwdocs branch python-formatting created. e1e17c97a8ae35cfb6b2f7428fb52b05f82450d1

2024-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
ting > > That did the job, thank you! > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > If that doesn't work we'll have to clean it up on the server. > > I believe things are fine? > > % git branch -la | cat > * master > remotes

Re: Align the gcc, glibc, and binutils DCO text to match community usage.

2024-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Bradley, Thanks for following the discussion and your input. We have also been discussing some policy wording changes on gcc-patches: https://inbox.sourceware.org/gcc-patches/20241202101600.1041524-1-m...@klomp.org/T If you have any suggestions for improving the actual wording change that woul

Re: gcc-wwwdocs branch python-formatting created. e1e17c97a8ae35cfb6b2f7428fb52b05f82450d1

2024-12-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Gerald, On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 07:26:45PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, Eric Gallager wrote: > >>> The branch, python-formatting has been created > >>> at e1e17c97a8ae35cfb6b2f7428fb52b05f82450d1 (commit) > >> Hmm, are you intentionally creating a branch for the

Re: Sourceware Cyber Security FAQ

2024-11-27 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jeffrey, On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:27:14PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:35 AM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > After lots of discussions at some of our Open Office hours, at the > > Cauldron, with other Software Freedom organizations and some of our &

Sourceware Cyber Security FAQ

2024-11-27 Thread Mark Wielaard
ute (security issues) back upstream. So any policies documenting how to clearly report issues and documenting the contributing and release practices should be helpful. Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions. Cheers, Mark Wielaard (for the Sourceware PLC) https://sourceware.org/mission.html#plc

Re: Align the gcc, glibc, and binutils DCO text to match community usage.

2024-11-24 Thread Mark Wielaard
; than a known identity that could be contacted to discuss the > contribution (and what was attested). > > The same changes have been made to other projects including as noted > by Sam James in the Gentoo project [2], Mark Wielaard in elfutils [3], > and CNCF [4]. It should probably b

Re: libdiagnostics name clash

2024-11-20 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 04:11:16PM -0500, David Malcolm via Gcc wrote: > I merged libdiagnostics to GCC trunk on Monday: > https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/libdiagnostics > > Unfortunately I've since discovered there's at least one libdiagnostics > .so already in Debian: > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg

Re: commits and bugzilla

2024-11-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Martin, On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 10:03:41AM +0100, Martin Uecker via Gcc wrote: > I just commited a bug fix and noticed that bugzilla was > not automatically updated. > > https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commit;h=d8af6c203f18b4fd736df9567926589d96f8e0b3 > > Did something change / break or

Re: We need to remove the Sphinx HTML docs

2024-11-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2024-11-15 at 12:14 +, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote: > On IRC mjw suggested that you (Gerald) might object to breaking links > by just removing them. I think the pages are already broken (the links > in the sidebar are half missing already). > > If we think preserving those links

Re: Sourceware forge experiment

2024-11-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Eric, On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 15:44 -0400, Eric Gallager wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 9:27 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > As an experiment Sourceware is now running an forgejo v9 instance at > > https://forge.sourceware.org > > > > Everybody with an @sou

Sourceware Open Office Friday 16:00 UTC, A forge experiment!

2024-11-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Nov 8, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Nov 8 16:00 UTC 2024" Sourceware relies on cooperation among a broad diversity of core toolchain and developer tool p

Re: Core Toolchain Infrastructure - October 2024 update

2024-11-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Carlos, On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:52:13PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > We discussed this with OpenSSF and submitted a funding request to > > OpenSSF Alpha Omega for this particular part. OpenSSF initially was > > supportive to funding these kinds of security plans, but they have been > >

Re: Core Toolchain Infrastructure - October 2024 update

2024-10-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Carlos, On Wed, 2024-10-30 at 08:32 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > I can get down to specific requirements and possible solutions for them, > including > things like securing logins with 2FA etc. Which *could* be solved by > Sourceware > today possibly using Nitrokeys (open hardware and FOSS

Re: Core Toolchain Infrastructure - October 2024 update

2024-10-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Carlos, On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 06:02:03PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell via Gcc wrote: > Recent discussions on the glibc mailing list make it clear > that we need to expand and discuss more about our "why" along with > the "what" and "how" of these changes. Zoe wrote a good summary of that discussio

Sourceware forge experiment

2024-10-20 Thread Mark Wielaard
As an experiment Sourceware is now running an forgejo v9 instance at https://forge.sourceware.org Everybody with an @sourceware.org, @cygwin.com or @gcc.gnu.org address can register an account (please use the same user name as your account name). The setup has disabled most "extras" (no badges, s

Sourceware Open Office Friday 16:00 UTC, A forge experiment?

2024-10-10 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Oct 11, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Oct 11 16:00 UTC 2024" Sourceware relies on cooperation among a broad diversity of core toolchain and developer tool

Sourceware infrastructure updates for Q3 2024

2024-09-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware infrastructure community updates for Q3 2024 Sourceware has provided the infrastructure for the core toolchain and developer tools for more than 25 years. https://sourceware.org/sourceware-25-roadmap.html The last couple of years it has transformed from a purely volunteer into a profes

Sourceware Open Office Friday and Cauldron Monday

2024-09-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
We'll have our regular Sourceware Open Office this Friday Sep 13, 16:00 UTC Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Sep 13 16:00 UTC 2024" Then at the Cauldron https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/cauldron2024 in Prague on Monday at 11:00 local time we

Re: gcc.gnu.org performance issues?

2024-08-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:31:12AM -0700, H.J. Lu via Gcc wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:17 AM Harald Anlauf via Gcc > wrote: > > is it only me who is recently experiencing intermittent > > but extreme slowness of "git pull"? > > > > I did an ssh -v and saw the following: > > > > debug1

Re: Forms for copyright assignment

2024-08-13 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Konstantinos, On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 11:12:17AM +0300, Konstantinos Eleftheriou wrote: > I would like to contribute to Binutils, GCC, glibc and GDB. Could > you send me the relevant forms for copyright assignment? My > contributions will be on behalf of VRULL. At https://git.savannah.gnu.org/

Re: Commit missing from gcc-cvs and bugzilla

2024-08-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Johann, On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 07:34:09PM +0200, Georg-Johann Lay wrote: > I just noticed that one of my commits, > > https://gcc.gnu.org/r15-2865 > > is missing from > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-cvs/2024-August/date.html > > Even though it has the tag "PR target/113934" the respe

Re: RISC-V Pioneer Box for builder.sourceware.org gcc CI

2024-08-11 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jeff, On Thu, Aug 08, 2024 at 09:51:24AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > On 8/8/24 9:13 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > >But I don't fully understand how the gcc testsuite detects whether rvv > >is implemented. e.g. rvv.exp seems to just check whether the target is > >RISC-V a

Sourceware Open Office, Friday 16:00 UTC

2024-08-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday Aug 9, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Aug 9 16:00 UTC 2024" Sourceware relies on cooperation among a broad diversity of core toolchain and developer tool p

Re: RISC-V Pioneer Box for builder.sourceware.org gcc CI

2024-08-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 02:11:45PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > On 8/6/24 1:50 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > >* Jeff Law via Gcc: > > > >>On 8/5/24 4:23 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > >> > >>>It was suggested to just ignore the machine has rvv since i

Re: RISC-V Pioneer Box for builder.sourceware.org gcc CI

2024-08-05 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 11:07:20PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Thanks to RISC-V International and SOPHGO we got a Milk-V Pioneer Box > [*] for builder.sourceware.org that we can use for gcc CI. > > It is running Fedora 38 with gdb 15.1, binutils 2.42 and gcc 14.1 > insta

RISC-V Pioneer Box for builder.sourceware.org gcc CI

2024-08-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, Thanks to RISC-V International and SOPHGO we got a Milk-V Pioneer Box [*] for builder.sourceware.org that we can use for gcc CI. It is running Fedora 38 with gdb 15.1, binutils 2.42 and gcc 14.1 installed on top. We could create containers with other setups if useful. https://builder.sourcew

Sourceware Open Office, Friday 16:00 UTC

2024-07-09 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday July 12, 16:00 UTC https://bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/mar-aom-dmo-fko Using #overseers on irc.libera.chat as backup. To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Jul 12 16:00 UTC 2024" Sourceware relies on cooperation among a broad diversity of core toolchain and developer too

Re: Bad interaction between gcc and glibc's handling of GNU extension [GCC PR 115724]

2024-07-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi David, On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 03:57:58PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > > > At -O0 sure, that is how __builtin_constant_p works. > > > The above is intended for optimized compilation, and I think it > > > works just fine then. > > > > And it's generally needed with optimization only, to suppre

unwanted communication

2024-06-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Dear Shendung Wang, You have been misbehaving and sending threatening messages to various gcc mailinglist and have posted such messages in bugzilla under the euloanty or cqwrteur handle. You should immediately stop that. Thanks, Mark

Sourceware Open Office, Friday 16:00 UTC

2024-06-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday June 14, 16:00 UTC, irc.libera.chat #overseers To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri May 10 16:00:00 UTC 2024" - Discussion topic: https://sourceware.org/sourceware-security-vision.html The Sourceware infrastructure security vision explains what Sourceware is

Re: gcc git locked out for hours second day in a row

2024-06-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, 2024-06-12 at 13:48 +0200, Jakub Jelinek via Gcc wrote: > Yesterday the gcc git repository was locked for 3 hours > locked by user mikael at 2024-06-11 13:27:44.301067 (pid = 974167) > 78:06 python hooks/update.py > refs/users/mikael/tags/fortran-dev_merges/r10-1545 > 000

Re: Sourceware @ Conservancy - Year One

2024-05-30 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Maxim, On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 12:18:38PM +0400, Maxim Kuvyrkov via Overseers wrote: > > On May 29, 2024, at 23:02, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > And a special thanks to ARM who have been using > > https://patchwork.sourceware.org/ to provide a pre-commit testing > > serv

Re: FSF copyright assignment

2024-05-25 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Seyed, On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 11:34:53AM +0100, Seyed Sajad Kahani via Gcc wrote: > I am writing to request the FSF copyright assignment forms, as they > are a legal requirement for contributing to GCC. At https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/tree/doc/Copyright you'll find the request

Re: Wrong date

2024-05-23 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Tony, On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 06:58:34PM -0500, tony.antonucci--- via Gcc wrote: > This was for the gcc 14.1 release. > Sorry I omitted that in the first email. Thanks for the notice, this has been fixed now: https://gcc.gnu.org/cgit/gcc-wwwdocs/commit/?id=465817d0e0a96a1e1722a67383183dbec95ab

Sourceware Open Office, Friday 16:00 UTC

2024-05-10 Thread Mark Wielaard
Friday May 10, 16:00 UTC, irc.libera.chat #overseers (Today in about 1 hour) To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri May 10 16:00:00 UTC 2024" Lots of discussion topics: - Sourceware 2024 - The Plan https://inbox.sourceware.org/20240325095827.gi5...@gnu.wildebeest.org/ - So

Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans

2024-05-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jeff, On Wed, 2024-05-01 at 15:38 -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > What works well? If you've wired up some CI bits, it's is extremely > useful to test an under development patch. Develop, push a branch, > raise an MR. At that point the CI system kicks in. Subsequent pushes > to the branch trigg

Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans

2024-05-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jason, On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 04:04:37PM -0400, Jason Merrill wrote: > On 5/1/24 12:15, Jeff Law wrote: > >We're currently using patchwork to track patches tagged with > >RISC-V.  We don't do much review with patchwork.  In that model > >patchwork ultimately just adds overhead as I'm constantl

Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans

2024-05-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jonathan, On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 08:38:26PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2024 at 20:19, Jeff Law via Gcc wrote: > > We're currently using patchwork to track patches tagged with RISC-V. We > > don't do much review with patchwork. In that model patchwork ultimately > > just a

Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans

2024-04-23 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:51:00PM -0400, Jason Merrill wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:24 PM Tom Tromey wrote: > > Jason> Someone mentioned earlier that gerrit was previously tried > > Jason> unsuccessfully. > > > > We tried it and gdb and then abandoned it. We tried to integrate it > >

Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans

2024-04-22 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Joseph, On Thu, 2024-04-18 at 15:56 +, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > But we like to get more feedback on what people really think a > > "pull-request" style framework should look like. We used to have a > > gerrit

Re: Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor

2024-04-21 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Alejandro, On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 06:30:42PM +0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > It would also be interesting to require showing range-diffs between > patch revisions. They make it much more difficult to introduce a > vulnerability after a reviewer has turned its mins into approving the > patch

Re: Patches submission policy change

2024-04-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 03:20:42PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2024, 15:02 Mark Wielaard, wrote: > > The jit mailinglist is the same. It only has one moderator > > (David). Having a second/backup one would probably be nice. Are you ok > &

Re: Patches submission policy change

2024-04-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:32:11PM +0100, Jonathan Wakely via Gdb wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, 22:36 Mark Wielaard, wrote: > > wrt to the mailinglists maybe getting larger patches, I think most > > will still be under 400K and I wouldn't raise the limit (because

Re: Patches submission policy change

2024-04-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 09:17 +0200, Christophe Lyon wrote: > On 4/4/24 23:35, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > wrt to the mailinglists maybe getting larger patches, I think most > > will still be under 400K and I wouldn't raise the limit (because most > > such larger emails

Re: Patches submission policy change

2024-04-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Christophe, On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:22:24AM +0200, Christophe Lyon via Gdb wrote: > TL;DR: For the sake of improving precommit CI coverage and simplifying > workflows, I’d like to request a patch submission policy change, so > that we now include regenerated files. This was discussed during

Re: Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor

2024-04-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 08:42 -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > On 4/3/24 8:04 AM, Tom Tromey wrote: > > > > > > > "Florian" == Florian Weimer writes: > > > > Florian> Everyone still pushes their own patches, and there are no > > Florian> technical countermeasures in place to ensure that the pushed >

Re: Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor

2024-04-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 08:53 -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote: > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 3:09 AM Florian Weimer via Gdb > wrote: > > * Guinevere Larsen via Overseers: > > > > > Beyond that, we (GDB) are already experimenting with approved-by, and > > > I think glibc was doing the same. > > > > The g

Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
A big thanks to everybody working this long Easter weekend who helped analyze the xz-backdoor and making sure the impact on Sourceware and the hosted projects was minimal. This email isn't about the xz-backdoor itself. Do see Sam James FAQ https://gist.github.com/thesamesam/223949d5a074ebc3dce9ee7

Security warning about xz library compromise

2024-03-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware hosts are not affected by the latest xz backdoor. But we have reset the https://builder.sourceware.org containers of debian-testing, fedora-rawhide and opensuse-tumbleweed. These containers however didn't have ssh installed, were running on isolated VMs on separate machines from our mai

Re: GNU Tools Cauldron 2024

2024-03-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 12:47 -0800, Bradley M. Kuhn via Gcc wrote: > Eric Gallager wrote: > > Hi, I would greatly appreciate a US option, and having it in Portland > > would be especially convenient for me, as then I could stay with > > family, so I would like to express my interest in it and would

Sourceware 2024 - The Plan

2024-03-25 Thread Mark Wielaard
The Sourceware Project Leadership Committee in discussion with the Software Freedom Conservancy staff came up with the Sourceware 2024 plan and is looking at longer term projects that would be needed to keep your infrastructure running smoothly and securely for the next couple of years. We are curr

Re: About gsoc

2024-03-11 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Dave, On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 08:17:31PM -0500, Dave Blanchard wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 01:59, Dave Blanchard wrote: > > > > Wow, what a fucking prick this guy is. > > > > [...] > You are one of the biggest assholes I've encountered in the open > source world, and I've met some real

Sourceware Open Office, Friday 18:00 UTC, don't feel isolated

2024-03-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
TL;DR; Friday March 8, 18:00 UTC, Sourceware Open Office discussion of services priorities for 2024, irc.liberachat.org #overseers To get the right time in your local timezone: $ date -d "Fri Mar 8 18:00:00 UTC 2024" In 2022 we published the Sourceware GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Roadmap [1]. An

Re: Help needed with maintainer-mode

2024-03-03 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Christophe, On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 05:32:15PM +0100, Christophe Lyon wrote: > > > > And it was indeed done this way because that way the files are > > > > regenerated in a reproducible way. Which wasn't the case when using > > > > --enable-maintainer-mode (and autoreconfig also doesn't work).

Re: Help needed with maintainer-mode

2024-03-01 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Christophe, On Thu, 2024-02-29 at 18:39 +0100, Christophe Lyon wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 12:00, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > That python script works across gcc/binutils/gdb: > > https://sourceware.org/cgit/builder/tree/builder/containers/autoregen.py > > >

Re: Help needed with maintainer-mode

2024-02-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Christophe, On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 11:22:33AM +0100, Christophe Lyon via Gcc wrote: > I've noticed that sourceware's buildbot has a small script > "autoregen.py" which does not use the project's build system, but > rather calls aclocal/autoheader/automake/autoconf in an ad-hoc way. > Should we

Sourceware infrastructure updates for Q1 2024

2024-02-27 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware infrastructure community updates for Q1 2024 A summary of news about Sourceware, the Free Software hosting project for core toolchain and developer tools, from the last 3 months. - Sourceware now has an official donation page - StarFive VisionFive-2 RISC-V boards for builder.sourceware

Re: Legal assignment forms for GCC

2024-02-22 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Robert, On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 02:29:03PM -0600, Robert Dubner wrote: > I anticipate making contributions to GCC on an ongoing basis, and > according to https://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html, there are some forms > that need to be filled out by me and my employer for ".assignment.for all > futur

Sourceware Open Office, Friday February 9, 18:00 UTC

2024-02-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Sourceware projects hackers, 2024 started strong with various Sourceware core toolchain and developer tool projects presenting at Fosdem. If you missed the in person meetings, most talks have video recordings: https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/track/debuggers-and-analysis/ https://fosdem.org/20

Core Toolchain and Developer Tools at FOSDEM

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Wielaard
Fosdem is next weekend, February 3 & 4, in Brussels. Guinevere, Dodji, Jose, David and Thomas organized some great devroom talks: On Saturday, 15:00 to 18:20, the Debugger and Analysis Devroom https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/track/debuggers-and-analysis/ Debug your stage-1 systemd with GDB an

Sourceware Open Office, Friday January 12, 18:00 UTC

2024-01-11 Thread Mark Wielaard
Happy new year! This Friday will be the first Sourceware Open Office of 2024. Join us this Friday, January 12, in #overseers on irc.libera.chat from 18:00 till 19:00 UTC. For any questions or ideas about any Sourceware service and/or integration of cgit, bugzilla, mailinglists, snapshots, mirror

Re: libgcov, fork, and mingw (and other targets without the full POSIX set)

2023-12-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2023-12-01 at 13:09 +0100, Jakub Jelinek via Gcc wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 01:03:01PM +0100, Jan Hubicka via Gcc wrote: > > > On Dez 01 2023, Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > > > > > > Hmm, so why's it then referenced and not "GCed"? > > > > > > This has nothing to do with ga

Sourceware infrastructure updates for Q4 2023

2023-11-28 Thread Mark Wielaard
Sourceware infrastructure community updates for Q4 2023 - 6 months with the Software Freedom Conservancy - Sourceware @ Fosdem - OSUOSL provides extra larger arm64 and x86_64 buildbot servers - No more From rewriting for patches mailinglists = 6 months with the Software Freedom Conservancy Sourc

Re: Checks that autotools generated files were re-generated correctly

2023-11-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi! (adding gdb and binutils to the CC) On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 12:30:59AM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 06:04:48PM +0100, Martin Jambor wrote: > > I have inherited Martin Liška's buildbot script that checks that all > > sorts of autotools generated fil

Sourceware Open Office, Friday Novemer 10, 18:00 UTC

2023-11-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Every second Friday of the month is the Sourceware Overseers Open Office hour in #overseers on irc.libera.chat from 18:00 till 19:00 UTC. That is this Friday October 10th. This time we will probably focus on integration of builder CI, Full, Try builds and patchwork PreCommit-CI. But please feel fr

Re: Checks that autotools generated files were re-generated correctly

2023-11-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Martin, On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 06:04:48PM +0100, Martin Jambor wrote: > I have inherited Martin Liška's buildbot script that checks that all > sorts of autotools generated files, mainly configure scripts, were > re-generated correctly when appropriate. While the checks are hopefully > useful,

Sourceware Open Office, Friday October 13, 18:00 UTC

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Wielaard
Every second Friday of the month is the Sourceware Overseers Open Office hour in #overseers on irc.libera.chat from 18:00 till 19:00 UTC. That is this Friday October 13th. Please feel free to drop by with any Sourceware services and hosting questions. Some specific topics we will likely discuss:

After Cauldron - online mini BoFs and Fosdem

2023-09-27 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi all, Cauldron was really great. Seeing everybody in person again. One item that came up was about meeting more frequently and/or in smaller (virtual) groups. If people want to have online mini BoFs to follow up on some discussion they had at Cauldron, or for some periodic meetup, then please r

Re: Hundreds of gcc.dg/guality failures on both 14 and 13.1 branches

2023-07-16 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 09:50:24AM +0200, FX Coudert via Gcc wrote: > > Which is why people should just compare testsuite results from earlier run > > on the same configuration to watch for regressions, especially in the > > guality testsuite. > > All this gives the idea of a test framework t

Re: Network Services Alert#489707

2023-07-13 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Dave, On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:34:31AM -0500, Dave Blanchard wrote: > You know, if you useless cocksuckers [...] Please stop using this kind of language on this list. I know it is annoying if the spam filters didn't catch some obvious scam message. But you are not helping anybody by replyin

Re: Will GCC eventually learn to use BSR or even TZCNT on AMD/Intel processors?

2023-06-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Arsen, On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 08:43:05PM +0200, Arsen Arsenović via Gcc wrote: > IMO, the sparing usage of this power on what are clearly purely abusive > participants can only drive away users and contributors. It seems > reasonable to establish a process for dealing with incidents like this

Re: Imagination Technologies Limited - FSF copyright assignment forms

2023-06-08 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Ed, On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:32:15AM +, Ed Crothall wrote: > Could you please send across the relevant copyright assignment forms > to enable contributions to GCC from Imagination Technologies > Limited? At https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/tree/doc/Copyright you'll find the r

Re: Who cares about performance (or Intel's CPU errata)?

2023-05-27 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Stefan, On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 12:52:30AM +0200, Stefan Kanthak wrote: > >> Just to show how SLOPPY, INCONSEQUENTIAL and INCOMPETENT GCC's developers > >> are: This is totally not constructive. You should stop attacking others like that on this list. > OUCH, my fault; sorry for the confusio

Re: Will GCC eventually support SSE2 or SSE4.1?

2023-05-26 Thread Mark Wielaard
Stefan, On Fri, 2023-05-26 at 14:22 +0200, Stefan Kanthak wrote: > "Jonathan Wakely" wrote: > > And when did you report it to bugzilla? > > > > Nobody reads your silly webpage. > > Thanks stupid. I don't read your silly bugzilla! Stop calling people stupid or dumbass. People are trying to hel

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