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2025-07-16 Thread TPL Group1999 via Gcc

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 19:03:21 +0200 > Cc: qifan.z...@xpeedic.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org > From: David Brown > > >> Well they didn't ask about distributing the DLLs :-) > > > > They did, indirectly: programs compiled by MinGW GCC are linked > > against libgcc and libstdc++ import libraries, and thu

GNU cargo (as a plugin to GCC)

2025-07-16 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
> Hello all, The Cuthour wrote to the GCC mailing list > I understand that GNU Make and C++ Modules address many current challenges > with headers and dependency management. > > But what I'm suggesting is a build+package manager tightly integrated with the > compiler — something like Rust's ca

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread David Brown via Gcc
On 16/07/2025 17:37, Eli Zaretskii via Gcc wrote: From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 16:12:01 +0100 Cc: qifan.z...@xpeedic.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 15:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Please stop giving bad advice and direct people to read the appropriate documentation.

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:44:41 +0200 > From: Dennis Luehring via Gcc > > Am 16.07.2025 um 17:37 schrieb Eli Zaretskii via Gcc: > > Unless the Windows loader can find them on > > the end-user's machine, it will refuse to run the program. > > the initial question was: do they fall under GPL whe

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Dennis Luehring via Gcc
Am 16.07.2025 um 17:37 schrieb Eli Zaretskii via Gcc: Unless the Windows loader can find them on the end-user's machine, it will refuse to run the program. the initial question was: do they fall under GPL when just using gcc - how complex or error prone their distribution concepts get is of no

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> From: Jonathan Wakely > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 16:12:01 +0100 > Cc: qifan.z...@xpeedic.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 15:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > Please stop giving bad advice and direct people to read the > > > appropriate documentation. > > > > Why the animosity?

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 15:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jonathan Wakely > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 15:08:50 +0100 > > Cc: qifan.z...@xpeedic.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org > > > > > > AFAIU, this is accurate if libgcc and libstdc++ are linked statically, > > > > but not if the program is linked to t

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> From: Jonathan Wakely > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 15:08:50 +0100 > Cc: qifan.z...@xpeedic.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org > > > > AFAIU, this is accurate if libgcc and libstdc++ are linked statically, > > > but not if the program is linked to their DLL versions (and therefore > > > the DLLs must be distribut

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 15:06, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 13:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 11:12:44 +0100 > > > Cc: gcc , gcc-help > > > From: Jonathan Wakely via Gcc > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 10:06, Qifan.Zhou via Gcc wrote: > > > > >

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 13:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 11:12:44 +0100 > > Cc: gcc , gcc-help > > From: Jonathan Wakely via Gcc > > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 10:06, Qifan.Zhou via Gcc wrote: > > > > > > Dear GCC Team, > > > > Please don't email both gcc@gcc.gnu.org and

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, jwakely@gmail.com, qifan.z...@xpeedic.com > From: ken...@adacore.com (Richard Kenner) > > > Not if we are talking about Windows binaries intended to be used by > > people who don't have GCC installed. (The OP asked about Min

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> Not if we are talking about Windows binaries intended to be used by > people who don't have GCC installed. (The OP asked about MinGW, which > is why I bring up this case.) These DLLs are part of the MinGW GCC > installation, but do not come with the OS OOTB. But then what the OP could do is to

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, jwakely@gmail.com, qifan.z...@xpeedic.com > From: ken...@adacore.com (Richard Kenner) > > > AFAIU, this is accurate if libgcc and libstdc++ are linked statically, > > but not if the program is linked to their DLL versions (an

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> AFAIU, this is accurate if libgcc and libstdc++ are linked statically, > but not if the program is linked to their DLL versions (and therefore > the DLLs must be distributed with the resulting program). In the > latter case, the LGPL exception doesn't apply, and distributing these > DLLs falls u

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii via Gcc
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 11:12:44 +0100 > Cc: gcc , gcc-help > From: Jonathan Wakely via Gcc > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 10:06, Qifan.Zhou via Gcc wrote: > > > > Dear GCC Team, > > Please don't email both gcc@gcc.gnu.org and gcc-h...@gcc.gnu.org, pick > the appropriate one. You're not discussin

Re: GNU cargo

2025-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 11:11, David Brown via Gcc wrote: > > Some people do want a centralised source of C and/or C++ libraries and > other code, or other common repositories, as is found for a number of > other languages. Most C and C++ programmers, I think, understand that > this could only be

Re: Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 10:06, Qifan.Zhou via Gcc wrote: > > Dear GCC Team, Please don't email both gcc@gcc.gnu.org and gcc-h...@gcc.gnu.org, pick the appropriate one. You're not discussing development of GCC so this belongs on the gcc-help list. Anyway ... > I hope this message finds you well.

Re: GNU cargo

2025-07-16 Thread David Brown via Gcc
When you are new to a mailing list or other discussion forum, it is a good idea to do one of two things - stick rigidly to rational technical points, or find out who you are talking to before straying from the technicalities. Insulting one of the big contributors and experts on gcc development

Question about GCC license for commercial use

2025-07-16 Thread Qifan.Zhou via Gcc
Dear GCC Team, I hope this message finds you well. I'm writing to seek official clarification regarding the use of GCC compilers in our proprietary, closed-source commercial software development. Our specific use case involves: 1. Using GCC executables (gcc.exe, g++.exe, etc.