Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread lkcl via Gcc
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 10:01 PM David Malcolm wrote: > Luke: you appear to me to be the one who is telling people what patches > they can and cannot apply, and it's pissing me off. 1) please don't you dare put words into my mouth that i did not state. first and only warning. 2) i'm sorry yo

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread David Malcolm via Gcc
On Mon, 2022-07-18 at 20:35 +0100, lkcl via Gcc wrote: > (apologies top-posting, strange mobile mailer). i would expect in that > case that the Rust Foundation to work closely with Certification Mark > Licensees, and to come to an accommodation, defining a subset if > necessary. > > if the gcc dev

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread lkcl via Gcc
(apologies top-posting, strange mobile mailer). i would expect in that case that the Rust Foundation to work closely with Certification Mark Licensees, and to come to an accommodation, defining a subset if necessary. if the gcc developers can clearly enunciate why shipping a "borrow checker" (w

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread Arthur Cohen via Gcc
Hi Florian, On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 20:33 Florian Weimer via Gcc wrote: > * lkcl via Gcc: > > > if the Rust Foundation were to add an extremely simple phrase > > > >"to be able to use the word rust in a distributed compiler your > > modifications must 100% pass the test suite without modif

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread Florian Weimer via Gcc
* lkcl via Gcc: > if the Rust Foundation were to add an extremely simple phrase > >"to be able to use the word rust in a distributed compiler your > modifications must 100% pass the test suite without modifying > the test suite" > > then all the problems and pain goes away. No. It wo

Re: Marc Poulhies appointed Ada co-maintainer

2022-07-18 Thread Arthur Cohen via Gcc
Congratulations Marc! Very happy for you. You deserve all the best. Félicitations :) -- Arthur On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 19:35 David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote: > I am pleased to announce that the GCC Steering Committee has appointed > Marc Poulhies as Ada co-maintainer. > > Please join me in congra

Marc Poulhies appointed Ada co-maintainer

2022-07-18 Thread David Edelsohn via Gcc
I am pleased to announce that the GCC Steering Committee has appointed Marc Poulhies as Ada co-maintainer. Please join me in congratulating Marc on his new role. Marc, please update your listing in the MAINTAINERS file. Happy hacking! David

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> A Certification Mark is the proper way to formally and legally enforce such > requirements. BTW, nobody is or was at all confident that the Ada mark was legally enforcable. I'm in the camp that it isn't. > telling people they cannot patch the source code without permission Nobody is telling

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread Richard Kenner via Gcc
> In order to be a validated Ada compiler, a compiler must pass > an extensive suite of programs called the Ada Compiler Validation > Capability (ACVC). FYI: the current name for this is ACATS: Ada Conformity Assessment Test Suite. >"to be able to use the word rust in a distribute

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread lkcl via Gcc
a (private) discussion has, fascinatingly, uncovered this, from 1987: http://archive.adaic.com/pol-hist/policy/trademrk.txt In order to be a validated Ada compiler, a compiler must pass an extensive suite of programs called the Ada Compiler Validation Capability (ACVC). The AJPO has a

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquiry: Country of Origin for gfortran

2022-07-18 Thread Zhang, Cynthia X. (GSFC-710.0)[TELOPHASE CORP] via Gcc
Thank you for your help! -Original Message- From: Thomas Koenig Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 4:55 AM To: Zhang, Cynthia X. (GSFC-710.0)[TELOPHASE CORP] ; fort...@gcc.gnu.org; gcc mailing list Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Inquiry: Country of Origin for gfortran Hi Cynthia, > Hello, my nam

[RFC] Function Multi Versioning on Arm

2022-07-18 Thread Daniel Kiss via Gcc
Hello, We are going to add Function Multiversioning [1] support to Arm architectures. The specification is made public as beta[2] to ensure toolchain that follows Arm C Language Extension will implement it in the same way. A few tweaks considered to make the developers' life easier. Since the `ta

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread lkcl via Gcc
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 9:50 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > You haven't been ignored. People have expressed reasonable > disagreements with your interpretation. > > Just because every line of your email hasn't been explicitly responded > to with positive acknowledgement of receipt doesn't mean you'v

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread Jonathan Wakely via Gcc
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 at 09:07, lkcl via Gcc wrote: > which is why i said - and have been ignored - that the gcc developers > need rather urgently to seek proper legal counsel and get a proper > legal opinion. You haven't been ignored. People have expressed reasonable disagreements with your interp

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread lkcl via Gcc
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 8:09 AM David Brown wrote: > Speaking as someone who is neither a lawyer, nor a GCC developer, nor > even (as yet) a Rust user, it seems to me that step 1 would be to hear > what the Rust Foundation has to say on the matter: > >

Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark

2022-07-18 Thread David Brown
On 17/07/2022 18:31, Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi Luke, On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 04:28:10PM +0100, lkcl via Gcc wrote: with the recent announcement that rust is supported by gcc There is just a discussion about whether and how to integrate (portions) of the gccrs frontend into the main gcc reposito