On 7 February 2014 23:30, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> I think there are other closely related issues, as GCC people try to work
> around issues with glibc, or vice versa, rather than coordinating what
> might be the best solution involving changes to both components,
Hi Joseph,
Thanks for the huge
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Renato Golin wrote:
> For a long time already I've been hearing on the LLVM list people
> saying: "oh, ld should not accept this deprecated instruction, but we
> can't change that", "that would be a good idea, but we need to talk to
> the GCC guys first", and to be honest, nobo
On 7 February 2014 22:42, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> The sanitizers are IMHO an impressive example of collaboration. The
> process may not be perfect, but the fact is that those powerful tools
> are available in both compilers - I think that's amazing!
I agree.
> Like the Blocks extension? :-)
S
On 7 February 2014 21:33, Renato Golin wrote:
>
> Worst still, with Clang and LLVM getting more traction recently, and
> with a lot of very interesting academic work being done, a lot of new
> things are getting into LLVM first (like the sanitizers, or some
> specialized pragmas) and we're dangerou
On 7 February 2014 22:33, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> I think it is going to called anything, it should be GNU and LLVM
> collaboration since GCC does not include binutils/gdb while LLVM
> includes the assembler/etc.
Good point. I do mean the whole toolchain.
cheers,
--renato
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Renato Golin wrote:
> On 7 February 2014 21:53, Diego Novillo wrote:
>> I think this would be worth a BoF, at the very least. Would you be
>> willing to propose one? I just need an abstract to get it in the
>> system. We still have some room left for presentations.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Diego Novillo wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Renato Golin wrote:
>
>> I'll be at the GNU Cauldron this year, feel free to come and discuss
>> this and other ideas. I hope to participate more in the GCC side of
>> things, and I wish some of you guys would
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Renato Golin wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm about to do something I've been advised against, but since I
> normally don't have good judgement, I'll risk it, because I think it's
> worth it. I know some people here share my views and this is the
> reason I'm writing this.
>
On 7 February 2014 21:53, Diego Novillo wrote:
> I think this would be worth a BoF, at the very least. Would you be
> willing to propose one? I just need an abstract to get it in the
> system. We still have some room left for presentations.
Hi Diego,
Thanks, that'd be great!
A BoF would give us
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Renato Golin wrote:
> I'll be at the GNU Cauldron this year, feel free to come and discuss
> this and other ideas. I hope to participate more in the GCC side of
> things, and I wish some of you guys would do the same on our side. And
> hopefully, in a few years, we
Folks,
I'm about to do something I've been advised against, but since I
normally don't have good judgement, I'll risk it, because I think it's
worth it. I know some people here share my views and this is the
reason I'm writing this.
The problem
For a long time already I've been hearing on the L
> > My most recent reason for looking at this is because I am starting to
> > understand/look at mips ld.so from glibc and it appears to make such
> > an assumption. I.e. I cannot see it using any specific options to
> > prevent the use of floating point but the path into the dynamic linker
> > for
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 08:50 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:20:51PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Hopefully some discussion of out-of-thin-air values as well.
> >
> > Yes, absolutely shoot store
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 18:06 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:55:48PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 0
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:13:36PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:06:54PM +, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:55:48PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Fr
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:55:48PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:20:51PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Hopefull
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> There's further problems where things like memset() can write outside
> the specified address range. Examples are memset() using single
> instructions to wipe entire cachelines and then 'restoring' the tail
> bit.
If memset (or any C library function) m
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Matthew Fortune wrote:
> My most recent reason for looking at this is because I am starting to
> understand/look at mips ld.so from glibc and it appears to make such an
> assumption. I.e. I cannot see it using any specific options to prevent
> the use of floating point but t
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:13:36PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> Understood, but that doesn't explain why Paul wants to add ISB/isync
> instructions which affect the *CPU* rather than the compiler!
I doubt Paul wants it, but yeah, I'm curious about that proposal as
well, sounds like someone took a b
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:06:54PM +, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:55:48PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Thu
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:55:48PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:20:51PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Hopefull
Hi Paul,
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:50:28PM +, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:20:51PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Hopefully some discussion of out-of-thin-air values as well.
> >
> > Yes, absolu
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:20:51PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Hopefully some discussion of out-of-thin-air values as well.
>
> Yes, absolutely shoot store speculation in the head already. Then drive
> a wooden stake through
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 12:01:25PM +, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hello Torvald,
>
> It looks like Paul clarified most of the points I was trying to make
> (thanks Paul!), so I won't go back over them here.
>
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:09:25PM +, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> > Are you familiar with
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:13:40AM +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 20:06 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:58:22PM +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 13:55 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:09:25P
On 02/07/2014 10:22 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 05:21:00PM -0500, Tim Prince wrote:
I'm seeing vectorization but no output from
-ftree-vectorizer-verbose, and no dot product vectorization inside
omp parallel regions, with gcc g++ or gfortran 4.9. Primary targets
are cygwi
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 05:21:00PM -0500, Tim Prince wrote:
> I'm seeing vectorization but no output from
> -ftree-vectorizer-verbose, and no dot product vectorization inside
> omp parallel regions, with gcc g++ or gfortran 4.9. Primary targets
> are cygwin64 and linux x86_64.
> I've been unable
Hi Richard,
I've been trying to determine for some time whether the MIPS backend has
successfully guaranteed that even when compiling with hard-float enabled there
is no floating point code emitted unless you use floating point types.
My most recent reason for looking at this is because I am st
Hello Torvald,
It looks like Paul clarified most of the points I was trying to make
(thanks Paul!), so I won't go back over them here.
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:09:25PM +, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> Are you familiar with the formalization of the C11/C++11 model by Batty
> et al.?
> http://www.c
Hello,
This is a followup of
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00120.html
and
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00055.html
This is a slightly long patch that attempts to simplify the niter and infinite
expressions by recursively looking through the dominant basic blocks for
register defi
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 20:06 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:58:22PM +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 13:55 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:09:25PM +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 18:59 +
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