Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Miles Bader
Florian Weimer writes: >>> Duplication is how other GNU projects handle this. For instance, many >>> Emacs Lisp functions are documented twice: once as a docstring in the >>> source code (which is roughly equivalent to the comment-in-spec >>> approach), and once in the Elisp reference (which is G

Re: x86 assembler syntax

2010-08-15 Thread James Dennett
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > Hi Rick (and others), > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >>> This question would have been more appropriate on the gcc-help mailing >>> list. -Ian Lance Taylor >> My apologies to everyone.  I did not know such a list existed. > >

Re: x86 assembler syntax

2010-08-15 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
Hi Rick (and others), On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> This question would have been more appropriate on the gcc-help mailing >> list. -Ian Lance Taylor > My apologies to everyone. I did not know such a list existed. all of our web pages have a footer which refers to gcc-help, but

Re: gcc-4.3-20100815 is now available

2010-08-15 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, gccad...@gcc.gnu.org wrote: > gcc-4.3-20100815.tar.bz2 Complete GCC (includes all of below) > > > SHA1=4fa7230c4535f91521bda26cc225508fe0b4e626 In case anyone wonders, given the weakness of md5 I added sha1 as an additional hash¹. md5 is just

gcc-4.3-20100815 is now available

2010-08-15 Thread gccadmin
Snapshot gcc-4.3-20100815 is now available on ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.3-20100815/ and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details. This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 4.3 SVN branch with the following options: svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/branches

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joel Sherrill: >> This approach is far less useful for languages which haven't got >> separate spec files because it encourages programmers of client code >> to look at the implementation, potentially picking up implementation >> details. It encourages the documentation writer to accidentally r

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Joel Sherrill
On 08/15/2010 04:09 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Robert Dewar: Duplication is how other GNU projects handle this. For instance, many Emacs Lisp functions are documented twice: once as a docstring in the source code (which is roughly equivalent to the comment-in-spec approach), and once in t

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert Dewar: > In the case of interfaces to library routines, what we do > is to have fully commented Ada package specs that act as > both the documentation of the implementation interface and > as the user documentation (for an example, look at g-spipat.ads). > I can't see any value in duplica

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Robert Dewar
Florian Weimer wrote: * Robert Dewar: Does *anyone* print documentation "out as a book", this seems to me to be a completely obsolete concept. People still buy books which are available freely in electronic form. This means that some printing still goes on. I think there is a difference bet

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Richard Kenner
> This approach is far less useful for languages which haven't got > separate spec files But there aren't many of those! In C, a ".h" file can easily be viewed as a "separate spec file" and interface documentation can and should be placed there, though I understand that few coding conventions cal

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert Dewar: >> People still buy books which are available freely in electronic form. >> This means that some printing still goes on. > > I think there is a difference between a novel you can hold and > read, and computer documentation. My question was not whether > anyone reads books any more,

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert Dewar: > Does *anyone* print documentation "out as a book", this seems to me > to be a completely obsolete concept. People still buy books which are available freely in electronic form. This means that some printing still goes on. It might also be necessary to consider what it means whe

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Robert Dewar
Florian Weimer wrote: * Robert Dewar: In the case of interfaces to library routines, what we do is to have fully commented Ada package specs that act as both the documentation of the implementation interface and as the user documentation (for an example, look at g-spipat.ads). I can't see any v

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Robert Dewar
Florian Weimer wrote: I was still referring to computer documentation, but admittedly not reference manuals, rather works like introductory texts which have got some sort of narrative strucuture which guides the reader. For reference manuals, it takes a huge amount of effort to make the printed

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Richard Kenner
> I think there is a difference between a novel you can hold and > read, and computer documentation. My question was not whether > anyone reads books any more, it was whether people read computer > manuals in this form any more. To me, it depends on the type of manual and whether it's for somethin

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Robert Dewar: >> Duplication is how other GNU projects handle this. For instance, many >> Emacs Lisp functions are documented twice: once as a docstring in the >> source code (which is roughly equivalent to the comment-in-spec >> approach), and once in the Elisp reference (which is GFDLed). > >