Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-10 Thread gambas
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2008 15:51:56 schrieb Benoit Minisini: > On mardi 02 septembre 2008, Stefano Palmeri wrote: > > Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. > > It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you > > permission to do that. I think it's a

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-10 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mardi 02 septembre 2008, Stefano Palmeri wrote: > Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. > It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you > permission to do that. I think it's a good idea removing > that message from Gambas online archives. > Benoit,

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mercredi 03 septembre 2008, Ron_1st wrote: > > > > Who will host this wiki? Should it be part of the existing Gambas-wiki? > > Btw. I noticed there is mention that Gambas wiki is written in Gambas. Is > > it's source code available under GPL? > > The presentation is a la wiki. > The gambas engin

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Jason Hackney
Looks like Ron_1st already covered most of my thoughts :-) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand priz

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Jason Hackney
I'm not certain how much the publisher cares. Feel free to let me know if this has already been hashed over. Excerpt from page 2 of the book: "All rights reserved. Personal use of this material is permitted. However, permission to reprint/republish this material for advertising or promotional pur

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Kari Laine
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 03 September 2008 07:57, Ron_1st wrote: > > The publisher wil not make it GPL if they can have financial profit > > of it when they sell the book. > > Does the publisher even own the copyright in this case? Rittinghouse

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Ron_1st
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2008 12:25:37 schrieb Ron_1st: > > > > The community works on a Wiki, which rights and permissions lay by one > > person/institution? Best way would be, wh

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Rob
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 07:57, Ron_1st wrote: > The publisher wil not make it GPL if they can have financial profit > of it when they sell the book. Does the publisher even own the copyright in this case? Rittinghouse used a vanity press, by the looks of the book a print-on-demand one, an

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Ron_1st
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2008 12:25:37 schrieb Ron_1st: > > Not sure it was his idea but he is as holder/hoster/republisher > > of the wiki who needs the permission for the Dutch law. > > > > When he is a ISP and a customer of that ISP is

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Kari Laine
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2008 12:25:37 schrieb Ron_1st: > > The community works on a Wiki, which rights and permissions lay by one > person/institution? Best way would be, when the publisher makes the book > GPL. > > I am not very knowl

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread gambas
Am Mittwoch, 3. September 2008 12:25:37 schrieb Ron_1st: > Not sure it was his idea but he is as holder/hoster/republisher > of the wiki who needs the permission for the Dutch law. > > When he is a ISP and a customer of that ISP is the owner of the wiki > then the customer need the permission and t

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Ron_1st
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > > > > > Was it him who originated the wiki-idea? I think it is a good idea but now > it is his turn to comment and maybe tell his real name... > > Best Regards > Kari Laine > Not sure it was his idea but he is as holder/hoster/republisher of t

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Kari Laine
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Ron Onstenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > > Hi, > > > Looks not to bad but don't forget to add to write which book. > > > > > > Product Details > > > > > > - ISBN: 0741429489 > > > - IS

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-03 Thread Ron Onstenk
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > Hi, > > as nobody has volunteered I try to write this proposal for publisher. > > -- > Dear Sir, > > You are the publisher for a book from John W. Rittinghouse titled as > Beginner's Guide to Gambas. > It is very fine book b

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
Hi, as nobody has volunteered I try to write this proposal for publisher. -- Dear Sir, You are the publisher for a book from John W. Rittinghouse titled as Beginner's Guide to Gambas. It is very fine book but parts of it are pretty dated. Gambas project is very active and it

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 17:16:10 schrieb Ron_1st: > > > If I would knew that this going to start this heated discussion I would > > > not have posted it in the first place... > > > > No problem of a heated discussion for me. > Ful

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread gambas
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 17:16:10 schrieb Ron_1st: > > If I would knew that this going to start this heated discussion I would > > not have posted it in the first place... > > No problem of a heated discussion for me. Full Ack! > I think it just only good to try to get the real permision. A

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Ron_1st <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Stefano Palmeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > > Product Details > > > > - ISBN: 0741429489 > > - ISBN-13: 9780741429483 > > - Format:

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Ron_1st
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Stefano Palmeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. > > It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you > > permission to do that. I thi

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Benoit Minisini
On mardi 02 septembre 2008, Stefano Palmeri wrote: > Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. > It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you > permission to do that. I think it's a good idea removing > that message from Gambas online archives. > Benoit,

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Stefano Palmeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. > It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you > permission to do that. I think it's a good idea removing > that message from Gambas on

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Stefano Palmeri
Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions. It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you permission to do that. I think it's a good idea removing that message from Gambas online archives. Benoit, can you do it? Best regards, Stefano Palmeri

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread gambas
To get back to the topic. :-) I think it's a very very good idea to take the book as a basis for documentation in a wiki. But what is needed is the permission of J.R. and/or the publisher. With respect to J.R.s situation, we could try to contact the publisher of the book. When they say "no" it

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Ron Onstenk
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Henri Girard wrote: > I don't know if you know it but openoffice 3 has an import of acrobat which > is not bad though in beta version >   > Yeah right and when the pdf is protected against print and copy/past and the developers of OO are honest they import that too

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Ron Onstenk
On Monday 01 September 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Am Montag, 1. September 2008 21:14:43 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> Kari, > >> > >> I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the > >> source to the original content. I will leave the

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 03:09:27 schrieb Arief Bayu Purwanto: > On 9/2/08, Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --begin-- > > > > Fabien, > > Thank you for remembering me and sending this. I know I have been out of > > touch and apologize. Dealing with stage 3 pancreatic cancer so

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Henri Girard
I don't know if you know it but openoffice 3 has an import of acrobat which is not bad though in beta version > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 03:55:53 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of > G

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Arief Bayu Purwanto
On 9/2/08, Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --begin-- > > Fabien, > Thank you for remembering me and sending this. I know I have been out of > touch and apologize. Dealing with stage 3 pancreatic cancer so I hope you > understand. > > jr > > --end-- > > so now you can understand why h

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Fabien Bodard
so for all of you understand why we do not have any news about John R, i will give you the lost private mail content he send to me there is two month : --begin-- Fabien, Thank you for remembering me and sending this. I know I have been out of touch and apologize. Dealing with stage 3 pancreati

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Am Montag, 1. September 2008 21:14:43 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> Kari, >> >> I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the >> source to the original content. I will leave the >> http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is le

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 21:14:43 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Kari, > > I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the > source to the original content. I will leave the > http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left. > > I'm still counting on you t

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I won't install the wiki till you have permission from John R.and the > source to the original content. I will leave the > http://gambas.allbasic.info sub-domain active till no hope is left. > > I'm still counting on you to get to the

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Kari, >> >> I tried as well. >> >> Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source >> document? >> >> John >> > > Hi John, > > > I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in > pdftohtml to ignore some kind of

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Benoit Minisini
On lundi 01 septembre 2008, Kari Laine wrote: > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Benoit Minisini < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Also I would be > > > prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used > > > > now > > > > > countles hours and I have just scratched the surfa

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Benoit Minisini < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also I would be > > prepared to pay for a technical document how Gambas works. I have used > now > > countles hours and I have just scratched the surface. Either I am darn > > stupid or Benoit is about to win obfuscate

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Benoit Minisini
On lundi 01 septembre 2008, KI have nari Laine wrote: > > Kari, > > > > I tried as well. > > > > Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source > > document? > > > > John > > Hi John, > > > I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in > pdftohtml to i

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
> Kari, > > I tried as well. > > Can you take the lead on getting the password or the original source > document? > > John > Hi John, I think there is no password on the file because I commented a test in pdftohtml to ignore some kind of protection and out it came. BUT there is no layout, no pic

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread charlesg
Hi, Perhaps this is all a bit premature without John's approval! You would not have to type it: it cuts 'n pastes ok. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Nice-book-of-Gambas-tp19243391p19253201.html Sent from the gambas-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >> Based on what I understand from the license section of the PDF, the >> book was made an open document with the ability to expand on it. If I >> read it wrong, please correct my error. >> >> I think the original text is still needed. I tried to conve

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
> > > Based on what I understand from the license section of the PDF, the > book was made an open document with the ability to expand on it. If I > read it wrong, please correct my error. > > I think the original text is still needed. I tried to convert it with pdftohtml and got this error susePK1

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Am Montag, 1. September 2008 12:33:58 schrieb Kari Laine: >> So did John give permission for the book to go wiki? >> How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat >> ? >> >> Best Regards >> Kari Laine > If John would give permission to use

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread gambas
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 12:33:58 schrieb Kari Laine: > So did John give permission for the book to go wiki? > How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat > ? > > Best Regards > Kari Laine If John would give permission to use his book as basis for a wiki, he also

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So did John give permission for the book to go wiki? > How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat ? > > Best Regards > Kari Laine Hi Kari, I have the http://gambas.allbasic.info domain active with a temporary home page.

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Kari Laine
So did John give permission for the book to go wiki? How a pdf can be converted to text? Is it possible with commercial acrobat ? Best Regards Kari Laine On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Er, I think this one shoul

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Er, I think this one should be up to John. :) > I fine with it after reading the license and restrictions. Sure would be nice if someone could move this into Open Office which exports to Mediawiki. I'll post something here when the wiki is ready

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Er, I think this one should be up to John. :) > > I've emailed him. See what he says. > I didn't get your e-mail so try support_AT_scriptbasic_DOT_org . If you already have permission to make this a GNU FDL document, I have no problem with facili

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread Hamish Robertson
Er, I think this one should be up to John. :) I've emailed him. See what he says. H. On 01/09/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> So would I. Turning that book into a wiki is a great Idea. Would John >> be up for that though? >>

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-01 Thread admin
Quoting Hamish Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So would I. Turning that book into a wiki is a great Idea. Would John > be up for that though? > I would be happy to host this wiki. I'll set it up and the group here can pick an administrator which can assign sysop's to help. http://Gambas.AllBa

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-08-31 Thread Hamish Robertson
So would I. Turning that book into a wiki is a great Idea. Would John be up for that though? On 01/09/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> i'mm not sure that J. Rittinghouse write something else as he is really >> sick. >> >> Fabien B

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-08-31 Thread admin
Quoting Fabien Bodard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i'mm not sure that J. Rittinghouse write something else as he is really sick. > > Fabien Bodard That is sad news. Maybe the work he did could be used as a foundation to build on with a wiki and a PayPal Donation button could be added. I would contri

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-08-31 Thread Fabien Bodard
i'mm not sure that J. Rittinghouse write something else as he is really sick. Fabien Bodard 2008/8/31 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Jason Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> First of all, I bought this book. Mr. Rittinghouse obviously worked >> very hard on it and I felt he deserves a little some

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-08-31 Thread admin
Quoting Jason Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First of all, I bought this book. Mr. Rittinghouse obviously worked > very hard on it and I felt he deserves a little something for his > effort. > > Does anyone know if Mr. Rittinghouse plans on releasing an updated > version of this book? There are in

Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-08-31 Thread Jason Hackney
First of all, I bought this book. Mr. Rittinghouse obviously worked very hard on it and I felt he deserves a little something for his effort. Does anyone know if Mr. Rittinghouse plans on releasing an updated version of this book? There are inconsistencies, errors, and just plain outdated informat