Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Kari Laine
Hi, thank you for all the information. I also found a system made in Finland using PHP. It is called pupesoft and it's web-address is http://www.devlab.fi/pupesoft So now when I have time I will test all of these and see how they work. Best Regards Kari

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Doriano Blengino
Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: > Doriano Blengino a écrit : > A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless >>> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] >>> >>> >> What do you mean precisely? Can you def

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
I don't like floats. They are slow, and bitchy; Dim n As Single n = 1.4 - 0.2 Print n And the result is 1.20047684, which is obviously wrong from math point of view. Correcting floating point artifact, makes floats even slower. And it is surprisingly common to be able to use integers instead.

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Doriano Blengino a écrit : >>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless >>> >> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] >> > What do you mean precisely? Can you define the properties of such variable? means: var name of type = temper

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Fabien Bodard
2009/12/15 Doriano Blengino : > Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: >> Doriano Blengino a écrit : >> ... >> >>> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless >>> >> >> hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] >> > What do you mean precisely?

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Rolf Schmidt
Am Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009 schrieb Doriano Blengino: > Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: > > Doriano Blengino a écrit : > > ... > > > >> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless > > > > hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] > > What do

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Doriano Blengino
Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: > Doriano Blengino a écrit : > ... > >>> >>> >> A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless >> > > hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] > What do you mean precisely? Can you define the pr

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Doriano Blengino a écrit : ... >> > A strongness inherited from pascal... I gave a look to many, countless hmm, I don't think Pascal can define vars as temperature[-10, +50] > languages, and only few met my own requirements - strong typization, > good compiler checks, overloading and, of cou

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Doriano Blengino
Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: > Doriano Blengino a écrit : > >>> Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around >>> 5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year). >>> >>> >> This is a proof that well designed things get a long life

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Norarg
Doriano Blengino schrieb: > nando ha scritto: > >> My contribution to this conversation is.. >> Always INT or LONG for money. >> Keep a global variable to divide by (for example 2 decimal places) 100 >> when printing/displaying things to humans... >> -OR- to take the string and insert a period f

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Doriano Blengino a écrit : >> Don't burry Cobol too fast: for banking *only*, this year will be around >> 5 milliards Cobol written lines (progression is an avg of 14% per year). >> > This is a proof that well designed things get a long life. Ok, cobol was > invented exactly for that purpose -

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Doriano Blengino
Jean-Yves F. Barbier ha scritto: > Doriano Blengino a écrit : > ... > >> while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% >> must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long >> integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does >

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-15 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Doriano Blengino a écrit : ... > while only 2% of them want to use financial capabilities. So, that 2% > must live with a language not very suitable for accounting". "Use long > integers, divide them, use format$()..." is the reply from Benoit. Does > someone remember the Cobol? With a simple de

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Doriano Blengino
nando ha scritto: > My contribution to this conversation is.. > Always INT or LONG for money. > Keep a global variable to divide by (for example 2 decimal places) 100 > when printing/displaying things to humans... > -OR- to take the string and insert a period for cents (North America) > Make a real

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread nando
e.net Sent: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:38:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program > On Tuesday 15 December 2009, Benoît Minisini wrote: > > Again we are talking about currencies. What's the matter with telephony > > seconds? If you want to say that you have to store 1

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Ron_1st
On Tuesday 15 December 2009, Benoît Minisini wrote: > Again we are talking about currencies. What's the matter with telephony > seconds? If you want to say that you have to store 1/1000th of cents, ro > more, > just choose a more precise format. With a Long datatype and using 1/100th > of c

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Ron_1st
On Monday 14 December 2009, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: > Benoît Minisini a écrit : > ... > > I think you are mixing a lot of different things: > > > > - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long integer > > in > > 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56€ will be sto

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Benoît Minisini
> Benoît Minisini a écrit : > ... > > > I think you are mixing a lot of different things: > > > > - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long > > integer in 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56€ will be stored > > as 123456 > > I'm gonna test that, but it implies m

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Benoît Minisini a écrit : ... > I think you are mixing a lot of different things: > > - When storing a amount of money in memory, you store it in a Long integer in > 1/10th of cents. For example, storing 1234,56€ will be stored as 123456 I'm gonna test that, but it implies more load of the DB se

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial Program

2009-12-14 Thread Matti
1. "Accounting programs are very much underestimated." That's true, indeed. I know a lot of people who thought that accounting was a minor matter, bought some program and did something not knowing what they did. They all got big problems with the tax authorities. 2. Writing an accounting program i

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Benoît Minisini
> Benoît Minisini a écrit : > >> Benoît Minisini a écrit : > Fabien Bodard a écrit : > > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > > > > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in > >

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Benoît Minisini a écrit : >> Benoît Minisini a écrit : Fabien Bodard a écrit : > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french > (Gb2) >>>

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Tony
Kari Laine wrote: > Hi, > > I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm. > It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little > companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run > on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas. > > Is

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Benoît Minisini
> Benoît Minisini a écrit : > >> Fabien Bodard a écrit : > >>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > >>> > >>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > >>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french > >>> (Gb2) > >> > >> BTW, do you plan to

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread girardhenri
You have the wonderfull accounting programm www.laurus.fr Here you have some : http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html enjoy :) Henri -- From: "Kari Laine" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:32 PM To: Subject: [Gambas-user] Financi

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Werner
On 15/12/09 01:22, Kari Laine wrote: > Hi, > >> There is Quasar from Linux Canada. It is very similar to MYOB. Their >> last GPL version is 1.4.7, I think. >> > Do you have the source for the GPL version. I visited their site and > couldn't find it. > > > >> If you think you can write a

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Kari Laine a écrit : > Hi, > > thanks > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Fabien Bodard wrote: >> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ >> >> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning >> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french >> (Gb2) >>

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Benoît Minisini a écrit : >> Fabien Bodard a écrit : >>> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ >>> >>> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning >>> programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french >>> (Gb2) >> BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Kari Laine
Hi, thanks On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Fabien Bodard wrote: > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french > (Gb2) > I don't read a single word French so

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Kari Laine
Hi, > There is Quasar from Linux Canada. It is very similar to MYOB. Their > last GPL version is 1.4.7, I think. Do you have the source for the GPL version. I visited their site and couldn't find it. > If you think you can write a decent accounting program in 3 man months > you don't know what t

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Benoît Minisini
> Fabien Bodard a écrit : > > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > > > > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french > > (Gb2) > > BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python dec

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Werner
On 14/12/09 23:32, Kari Laine wrote: > Hi, > > I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm. > It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little > companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run > on Linux and would be free. There comes

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Fabien Bodard
i've bookmarked the pyton page ... this is an interesting thing but ... always the time problem ... 2009/12/14 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12u...@gmail.com>: > Fabien Bodard a écrit : >> you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ >> >> but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning >> p

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Fabien Bodard a écrit : > you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ > > but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning > programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french > (Gb2) BTW, do you plan to have an equivalent of postgresql or python decimal(n,n) into

Re: [Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Fabien Bodard
you have Laurux at http://laurux.fr/ but the code is not perfect has it was on the start a code learning programme.. but at the end it's a true accounting program... in french (Gb2) 2009/12/14 Kari Laine : > Hi, > > I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm. > It wa

[Gambas-user] Financial program

2009-12-14 Thread Kari Laine
Hi, I have already done little billing program for my parents little firm. It was a learning exercise. It would make a big help to get little companies to move to Linux if there was a financial program that run on Linux and would be free. There comes in Gambas. Is there already an GPLed financial