I have drilled down into the guts of Gambas and rattled a few cages in
the process but I would like to thank you all for your time, patience
and tolerance towards a Gambas newbie.
I like the IDE and what has been achieved since its inception and I
think that it holds great potential for the future
This is in great danger of getting off topic but holy shit. It has
certainly come a long way since then.
Who gave birth ?
When did it come under source code control ?
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Are the archives searchable in any real meaningful way ?
Or is that a silly question/obvious. I am getting tired so please
respond as though I am a moron.
On 20/09/14 23:29, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> When did you arrive and what period do you
The actual name 'Static Class Method or Static Class Variable' and the
name 'Class Method or Class Variable' are exactly the same thing. They
are directly synonymous with a static variable within a subroutine or
function that retains its value between calls to that sub or func (ie it
is not on the
When did you arrive and what period do you refer to ?
On 20/09/14 22:34, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
>> using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
&
Hi All,
Do any of you old-timers to gambas recall any questions/interest in
using the IDE to generate source for other languages ?
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On 20/09/14 22:01, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:24:46 +0200
> Benoît Minisini wrote:
>
>> Le 20/09/2014 11:55, John Leake a écrit :
>>> Thanks Tobi,
>>>>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>&
they should be indistinguishable from each other. If
the language allows you probe deeper (like obtaining the address of the
object) then the results returned should be the same.
On 20/09/14 19:49, B Bruen wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:55:06 +0100
> John Leake wrote:
>
>> Thank
ponse.
On 20/09/14 19:01, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?
>>
>
> What makes you so sure that the sources are generated? I don't know the
> compiler at all (!) but these sources
Anyone know when the parser and compiler were last generated ?
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It the original files that generated the compiler are not available it
is too risky to reverse engineer them.
On 20/09/14 14:29, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Could anyone point me to the languages definitive specification as used
>
Hi All,
Could anyone point me to the languages definitive specification as used
by yacc and lex ?
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datediff(date(year(now),month(now),1),date(year(now),month(now)+1,1),gb.day)
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Thanks Tobi,
>> So could someone tell me if a class without any dynamic variable ie a
>> static class, can or cannot be created ?
>>
>
> Or you can try it out.
>
> What I did was creating a module and making objects from it with New -- it
> works, but those objects are even more limited than I ha
Hi All,
Could someone please clarify the characteristics of a static class.
My understanding of Static Classes from other languages is:
They cannot be created or more precisely no more than one instance of
the class can exist. This means that if a process alters the state of
the class then that c
On 20/09/14 01:31, Willy Raets wrote:
> On za, 2014-09-20 at 00:19 +0100, John Leake wrote:
>> Thank you. Should the documentation in the wiki also be updated to
>> reflect this new behaviour ?
>
> I don't think so as the fix should make Gambas confirm the
> documenta
Thank you. Should the documentation in the wiki also be updated to
reflect this new behaviour ?
On 20/09/14 00:12, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> Le 20/09/2014 01:05, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
>> Le 20/09/2014 01:02, Benoît Minisini a écrit :
>>>
>>> Can you send your project? Normally the sentence "Thi
> Indeed. I removed the constraint where a class without dynamic variable
> is not instanciable. But I don't know why I suddenly found that useful...
>
I am also dabbling with source comments and auto generated help wrt
modules in general and singleton objects.
Would the SVN commit history shine
Hi Jussi,
I too am interested in this. How do you get from wishing to find out
about Hex$ to the url
> http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/code/HEAD/tree/gambas/trunk/main/gbx/gbx_subr_conv.c
Best regards,
John Le
it a try, getting
nowhere fast and then leaving never to be seen again.
Best regards,
John Leake
On 18/09/14 18:24, T Lee Davidson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am almost lost when it comes to browsing the source code tree for
> specific pieces of code.
>
> The Gamb
> If you use BackBox, uninstall metacity and try to delete ~/.cache/sessions.
> Assuming you still have xfwm4 installed.
Done and I do have xfwm4 installed and I am back to an almost unusable
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> John, not to offense, but your messages are mess. What is your distro,
> Ubuntu or BackBox? Why metacity?? Neither of them uses metacity.
Hi Jussi,
No offence taken. I have been trying to find out why my threading is a
mess but have not got to the bottom of that yet.
BackBox 3.13 is based on D
> /me scratches head... Ubuntu 12.04LTS with metacity and gnome2? I thought
> Ubuntu switched to Unity a LOOONG time ago or am I missing something here?
The distro is BackBox 3.13 which is Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS with a light front
end instead of all that unity bloatware.
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>>> Some of the symptoms
>>>
>>>
>>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>>> (2) No Window decoration.
>>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not w
> Gambas cannot destroy your system, installed from source of from binary
> packages. This is something else.
Any suggestions ?
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>> Some of the symptoms
>>
>>
>> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
>> (2) No Window decoration.
>> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
>> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
>> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
> Some of the symptoms
>
>
> (1) System wide keyboard short cuts all fucked up.
> (2) No Window decoration.
> (3) Window layering, focus, bring to top - knackered.
> (4) Default position on window launch not what it used to be.
> (5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
(6) Fir
used to be.
(5) Thunderbird text menus not working.
Any one got any bright ideas where I should start to unravel this mess ?
Best regards,
John Leake
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I cannot deal with this right now. Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove
and update and reinstalling my desktop it has all turned to ratshit!!!
On 18/09/14 01:39, John Leake wrote:
> WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
> My window borders have va
WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop.
My window borders have vanished.
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Sorry guys I did about sixteen hours on this yesterday and only had
about 4 hours sleep last night so I will just have to call it a dorris
and let all you fit youngsters slug it out.
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What is going on here ?
I really do not understand. I (John Leake the gambas newbie) started a
new thread about the problems I was experiencing in attempting to build
from svn trunk.
Please do not loose sight of the fact that it all worked in the end
(which is a major achievement).
I was
more help suggested I install llvm and the
feeling I got was almost better than sex.
Conclusion
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Many thanks to you all,
John Leake
On 17/09/14 20:58
Nearly there.
|| THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED:
|| - gb.jit
|| Unable to find file: libintl.so
|| Unable to find file: libiconv.so
Any ideas ?
On 17/09/14 20:04, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote:
>> I am working through the build errors in output.txt and
I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header
file that cannot be found is
Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to.
[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
De
One more thing is disk space. With SVN there are two entire copies of
the repo. On Git there is one and all the rest are diffs.
On the corruption front it works by sha hashing so you are
mathematically guaranteed that the code is sound!
On 17/09/14 17:22, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 17.09.201
Just watch the Linus 2007 video and make your own mind up.
On 17/09/14 15:39, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
>> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will
>> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from.
>>
>
> Applies to situation where there is more tha
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I was joking. It is ignorance on my part and I have written about my
concerns wrt generating unnecessary noise. If only people would say
from the start something like;
'Did you know these threads are hard to follow, can I help you do it right'.
Hey that looks cool. Thank you. You can certainly get someons
attention with a few >>
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Sorry, more ignorance on my part. Its no wonder all you gambas gurus
have no idea what I am talking about!
On 17/09/14 02:37, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> Le 17/09/2014 02:49, John Leake a écrit :
>> When editing an image in the IDE under 3.5.4 there was an image size
>> tool bar butt
se, at
> least essentially, same features be implemented with intuitive interface?
> There are a lot of alternatives.
>
>
>
> Jussi
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:19 AM, John Leake wrote:
>
>>> Do I have to question my understanding of criticism? I r
; either one sends the message to the list address.
>
> There is also "Reply to List" in the Message menu.
>
>
> On 09/16/2014 08:32 PM, John Leake wrote:
>> Responding to a thread
>> ---
>> When someone responds to my
at and choose "Compose message to"
>
> HTH,
> Lee
>
>
> On 09/16/2014 08:36 PM, John Leake wrote:
>> Create a *new* message instead of simply replying to a message from a
>> thread that already exists. Creating a new message will create a new thread.
>
When editing an image in the IDE under 3.5.4 there was an image size
tool bar button.
It is no longer there under 3.5.90
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Thank you. I have just elucidated my difficulty with this.
Where do I create a *new* message ?
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> Le 17/09/2014 00:28, John Leake a écrit :
>> Did you know that the image size tool button is no longer available in
>> 3.5.90
>>
>
> No idea what you are talking about, but please start a new thread when
> the subject changes!
>
Sorry the context
>> IDE - form design.
>> Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
>> is clicked ?
>>
>
> Why not?
>
> Please start a new thread when you want to talk about another subject!
> Thanks.
Sorry, I changed the email subject. What else should I do ?
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ch that is hard to merge, not a backward step as
I see it. If your community were to consider a switch then there are
some good transitional examples that ran live right throughout the whole
migration process. I will certainly make public my experiences.
Hey it might just be too much for me an I will j
IDE - form design.
Are the form grab handles supposed to be visible/active when a control
is clicked ?
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Did you know that the image size tool button is no longer available in
3.5.90
[System]
Gambas=3.5.90
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Hi guys,
ToolTip has the behaviour as Text property.
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n return. If you
do not accept my input as being a bug then that is your right and I am
fine with that.
I am in the process of importing the repo into git so that I can work
independently and you are welcome to clone it and explore what I have done.
Still frien
On 16/09/14 22:04, John Leake wrote:
> Back on topic re Subject. If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
> set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
> back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
> property and pressing delete)
Back on topic re Subject. If in the IDE you select a ToggleButton and
set its Foreground or Background colour and then later wish put either
back to its default (by selecting the control, then highlighting the
property and pressing delete) the control is deleted instead of the
property.
-
>> P.S. I don't know why I keep going to the wrong place in the help. Also
I usually use a web search engine with my problem which invariably
directs me to:
http://gambasdoc.org/help/doc/whatever
which so far has fallen short of giving me enough info to sort thing out
without pestering the mailing
Hi Tobi,
Thanks. A link to [0] in 'Compiling the Subversion repository' would
save you a bit of email noise.
[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
Desktop=XFCE
Theme=QGtk
Language=en_GB.UTF-8
Memory=7863M
[Librarie
I followed the docs for v3
Compiling the Subversion repository.
I checked out trunk and did
$ ./reconf-all
...
$ ./configure -C
But there are lots of inaccessible header files.
Attached the config.log
config.log.tar.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data
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>
> I'm talking about the development version.
>
Sorry, no wonder you want to get it out quickly.
Will down load, build and report back.
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=libcairo.so.2.11000.2
Curl=libcurl.so.4.2.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.5.8
GStreamer=libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.1.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
Poppler=libpoppler.so.19.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.1
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.3
John Leake
Any chance of adding opacity and colour to simple controls ?
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>
> Private by default. It's like a class, except everything is static.
>
So if I have a module containing some general purpose functions that I
wish to share across all the forms in a project, can simply declare
these functions as Public within the module ?
What scope do Functions/Subs and variables have when defined or declared
within a module ?
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> It's a thing coming from Visual Basic.
>
Thank you. When and how is an instance instantiated ?
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Hi All,
I am really struggling with the Gambas 3 documentation.
Can anyone tell me where I can find out what constitutes a 'module' ?
Best regards,
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