Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread Randall Morgan
Hi John, I run a system similar to yours. Still running 12.04 LTS and have not only routinely built Gambas 3 from source but, I have gone back and forth between the repo versions and the trunk code. If you take care to ensure all the listed prerequisites are installed, Gambas 3 build fine and does

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
Hard to believe it is Gambas issue. I think your window manager has crashed, either restart it or reboot. If it is config issue, then it's more complicated. Jussi On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:47 AM, John Leake wrote: > I cannot deal with this right now. Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove > and u

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
I cannot deal with this right now. Despite purging Gambas3 autoremove and update and reinstalling my desktop it has all turned to ratshit!!! On 18/09/14 01:39, John Leake wrote: > WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop. > My window borders have vanished. > >

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
WARNING - building Gambas3 can fuck up your desktop. My window borders have vanished. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Pred

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
Sorry guys I did about sixteen hours on this yesterday and only had about 4 hours sleep last night so I will just have to call it a dorris and let all you fit youngsters slug it out. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade yo

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
What is going on here ? I really do not understand. I (John Leake the gambas newbie) started a new thread about the problems I was experiencing in attempting to build from svn trunk. Please do not loose sight of the fact that it all worked in the end (which is a major achievement). I was careful

Re: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)

2014-09-17 Thread Willy Raets
On do, 2014-09-18 at 01:53 +0200, Benoît Minisini wrote: > Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > Following was brought to my attention: > > > > To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder. > > Create a console project in IDE with any name you like > > > > Public

Re: [Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)

2014-09-17 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 18/09/2014 01:50, Willy Raets a écrit : > Hi all, > > Following was brought to my attention: > > To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder. > Create a console project in IDE with any name you like > > Public Sub Main() > >Dim sPath As String >sPath = User.Home &/ "test" >

[Gambas-user] Stat() Auth and Mode (misunderstanding or bug?)

2014-09-17 Thread Willy Raets
Hi all, Following was brought to my attention: To reproduce make a file named test in your home folder. Create a console project in IDE with any name you like Public Sub Main() Dim sPath As String sPath = User.Home &/ "test" With Stat(sPath) Print "Auth: " & .Auth Print "Mode: " &

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread Benoît Minisini
/// My God! Stop using the same thread for all subjects! /// Le 18/09/2014 00:16, T Lee Davidson a écrit : > This again brings up an issue I brought up previously: that every page > on the old wiki should have that same notice that is on the home page. > > "THE WIKI IS NOW IN READ-ONLY MODE. > THE

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk, deprecated documentation

2014-09-17 Thread T Lee Davidson
This again brings up an issue I brought up previously: that every page on the old wiki should have that same notice that is on the home page. "THE WIKI IS NOW IN READ-ONLY MODE. THE NEW WIKI IS NOW HOSTED AT http://gambaswiki.org"; I asked if that could be done, but I don't see it yet. And, I re

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
*"If all the docs relating to building trunk were combined and in the same place I would have got here with just a single request for help."* > http://www.gambasdoc.org/help/howto/svn?v3#t2 > Old documentation. This is going to be removed. New version of this is in http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/in

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Charlie Reinl
Am Mittwoch, den 17.09.2014, 21:33 +0100 schrieb John Leake: > My Ubuntu version is 12.04.5 LTS as shown at the head if this thread. > I just did a sudo apt-get install llvm and hey all I have now is > || Unable to find file: libintl.so > || Unable to find file: libiconv.so > Before make and sudo m

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
My Ubuntu version is 12.04.5 LTS as shown at the head if this thread. I just did a sudo apt-get install llvm and hey all I have now is || Unable to find file: libintl.so || Unable to find file: libiconv.so Before make and sudo make install I did:- sudo apt-get purge ganmas3 and sudo apt-get autorem

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen: >> No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file >> corruption in general. >> > Hmmm... I wonder what is the difference exactly. How svn can detect > conflict, if it cannot detect corruption? Hmmm... :-), too complicated for me

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Tobias Boege wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote: > > Nearly there. > > || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED: > > || - gb.jit > > > > Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says > only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote: > Nearly there. > || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED: > || - gb.jit > Great. gb.jit needs LLVM >= 3.3, I think (although its configure.ac says only >= 3.1)... Depending on your Ubuntu version this may or may not be in your repositories yet. If it's not, it is

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
Nearly there. || THESE COMPONENTS ARE DISABLED: || - gb.jit || Unable to find file: libintl.so || Unable to find file: libiconv.so Any ideas ? On 17/09/14 20:04, Tobias Boege wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote: >> I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, John Leake wrote: > I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header > file that cannot be found is > Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to. > [System] > Gambas=3.5.90 > OperatingSystem=Linux > Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic >

Re: [Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
You are missing a lot of devs. http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/install?w&l=en Jussi On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:51 PM, John Leake wrote: > I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header > file that cannot be found is > Could someone tell me what the C standard header path s

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
> No, that ist for detection of file corruption on disk. Or even file > corruption in general. > Hmmm... I wonder what is the difference exactly. How svn can detect conflict, if it cannot detect corruption? > Now start coding and committing by and by. > What I didn't like is the way you need

[Gambas-user] Building /trunk

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
I am working through the build errors in output.txt and the first header file that cannot be found is Could someone tell me what the C standard header path should be set to. [System] Gambas=3.5.90 OperatingSystem=Linux Kernel=3.11.0-26-generic Architecture=x86_64 Distribution=Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS De

Re: [Gambas-user] Issue 526 in gambas: Please create an AppData file for Gambas3

2014-09-17 Thread gambas
Comment #4 on issue 526 by hughsi...@gmail.com: Please create an AppData file for Gambas3 https://code.google.com/p/gambas/issues/detail?id=526 The AppData file needs to be installed to /usr/share/appdata/ on Linux and the basename needs to match the .desktop basename. It would also be great

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen: >> http://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout >> >> git co changes the working tree. > > Seems it doesn't just switch. > "Updates files in the working tree to match the version in the index or the > specified tree." Yes shure, all different files in the th

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
One more thing is disk space. With SVN there are two entire copies of the repo. On Git there is one and all the rest are diffs. On the corruption front it works by sha hashing so you are mathematically guaranteed that the code is sound! On 17/09/14 17:22, Christof Thalhofer wrote: > Am 17.09.201

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 16:39 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen: >> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will >> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from. > > Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK > there isn't for Gambas.

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
Just watch the Linus 2007 video and make your own mind up. On 17/09/14 15:39, Jussi Lahtinen wrote: >> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will >> confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from. >> > > Applies to situation where there is more tha

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
> http://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout > > git co changes the working tree. > Seems it doesn't just switch. "Updates files in the working tree to match the version in the index or the specified tree." Jussi -- Want excit

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 16:27 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen: >>> git checkout pristine-tar >>> git checkout upstream >>> git checkout master >> >> Thats silly. git checkout just changes branches. In this example you >> switch between three branches and do nothing. > > Well this is what the admin of the git repo

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
> 1) SVN will not detect a corruption - with Git the sha1 hash will > confirm that your source is unadulterated no matter who you pull it from. > Applies to situation where there is more than one repo where to pull. AFAIK there isn't for Gambas. > 2) With SVN, all your eggs are in one basket -

Re: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update

2014-09-17 Thread Randall Morgan
I am talking about native gambas arrays of any standard gambas type On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Tobias Boege wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote: > > We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl > > But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero? > >

Re: [Gambas-user] Control Backgroung/Foreground colour

2014-09-17 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
> > git checkout pristine-tar > > git checkout upstream > > git checkout master > > Thats silly. git checkout just changes branches. In this example you > switch between three branches and do nothing. > Well this is what the admin of the git repository told me to do. I tried several times, and thi

Re: [Gambas-user] Thread view broken

2014-09-17 Thread Fabien Bodard
:-) the 90's client mail ... Really stable ! .. it didn't take ages Le 17 sept. 2014 01:41, "Tobias Boege" a écrit : > Hi people, > > as of recently there were more mails than usual which broke the thread view > of which some mail clients are capable and which some of us like very much. > > On th

Re: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7

2014-09-17 Thread Fabien Bodard
Well it's a good idea... For the user interface ... You can take some ideas from gambasforge ;-) I think a repository of classes;components that can be moderate can be a good idea too. So users can use a large bases of offered free code. Maybe a repository for ide adds too The upload door must be

Re: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update

2014-09-17 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote: > We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl > But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero? > What does it mean to be an array? I'm not sure. If you call an "array" what can be used like an array then these are the classes imple

Re: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
many thanks. -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191

Re: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update

2014-09-17 Thread Randall Morgan
We were looking at: http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/arraydecl But don't all array indices in Gambas begin at Zero? On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Tobias Boege wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote: > > A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas > > array

Re: [Gambas-user] Wiki Update

2014-09-17 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Randall Morgan wrote: > A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas > arrays are Zero or One based index. I told him zero based. However, I > though the wiki maintainer might want to add that to the wiki page for > arrays. > Which do you mean? There

[Gambas-user] Wiki Update

2014-09-17 Thread Randall Morgan
A colleague pointed out to me that the wiki does not specify is Gambas arrays are Zero or One based index. I told him zero based. However, I though the wiki maintainer might want to add that to the wiki page for arrays. -- If you ask me if it can be done. The answer is YES, it can always be done.

Re: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 11:26 schrieb John Leake: > I was joking. It is ignorance on my part and I have written about my > concerns wrt generating unnecessary noise. If only people would say > from the start something like; > 'Did you know these threads are hard to follow, can I help you do it right'. O

Re: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
I was joking. It is ignorance on my part and I have written about my concerns wrt generating unnecessary noise. If only people would say from the start something like; 'Did you know these threads are hard to follow, can I help you do it right'.

Re: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.

2014-09-17 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 17.09.2014 um 09:37 schrieb John Leake: > Hey that looks cool. Thank you. You can certainly get someons > attention with a few >> No that is'nt cool. It's a failure. This occurs only in Thunderbird, not other MUAs. And it's very difficult to follow the threads you want to start just

Re: [Gambas-user] IDE image editing.

2014-09-17 Thread John Leake
Hey that looks cool. Thank you. You can certainly get someons attention with a few >> -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version con

Re: [Gambas-user] ...And what is planned for Gambas 3.7

2014-09-17 Thread Rolf-Werner Eilert
I agree. At least it should be possible to hold the help files locally in case there is no (regular) internet access. Can't the IDE decide where to load them from? IF internet access THEN download ELSE locally... Rolf Am 16.09.2014 10:55, schrieb Randall Morgan: > I would allow the user to cho