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urce code of
the released VBE/AI drivers (for Adlib, Sound Blaster, Pro Audio Spectrum
and Disney Sound Source), and has the rights ro release them as open
source? That way, we would start out with a list of already supported sound
card and audio devices to ship with FreeDOS.
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> If I had: '-M q35' to qemu to enable a SATA only machine, when booting in
> live mode 1.3-rc3:
> UDVD2: Nothing to use; UDVD2 not loaded.
> I hope UDVD return an error code we c
ter
> to support graphics mode.
>
> If you know the dreidl game, you know this is basically a simulator, so
> it's not really a game. More than anything, this is probably a demo about
> writing a simple program. You spin the dreidl, and you automatically do
> stuff based on t
7;t happen often, so it
would be nice to have this included with 1.3.
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ay be underestimating the level of complexity involved
in adding this feature. But FreeDOS releases don't happen often, so it
would be nice to have this included with 1.3.
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Also in what way I can contribute to FreeDOS with my existing knowledge?
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, MASM or both as input. Output was NASM or JWASM
> as far as I remember.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> PS: Feel free to reply as part of the freedos-devel thread.
>
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currently include the "far pascal" keyword
that gcc-ia16 doesn't support yet. That's being looked into, though.
<https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16/issues/45#issuecomment-812819327> (Help
with that is welcome too, of course!)
Anyway, I hope this is useful to at least some o
other cool stuff that I'm undoubtedly missing here
>
> Note that the VBE/AI sources currently include the "far pascal" keyword
> that gcc-ia16 doesn't support yet. That's being looked into, though.
> <https://github.com/tkchia/gcc-ia16/issues/45#issuecomment-812819327>
> (Help with that is welcome too, of course!)
>
> Anyway, I hope this is useful to at least some of you.
>
> have a great day/evening/night, everyone! 🤗
>
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t; other workaround is telling your EMM386 or HIMEM or similar
> to not let Windows know how much RAM you really have ;-)
>
> Cheers, Eric
>
> > https://youtu.be/35OQjLYdvJ0
>
> > For the technical aspect - the changes are minimal to the kernel,
> > added support f
one. Have to check my setup disks.
>
> I think Windows' 386 mode is pretty heavily tied into undocumented
> features of EMM386 when it is active, so it wouldn't surprise me if a free
> version of EMM386 made it go down in flames.
>
> -uso.
>
>
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atures) is
incorrect? Do any of you know of any such projects that could fit the bill?
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> Understandable, but fixing JEMM is easier than writing another EMM386.
>
It turns out that writing another EMM386 reimplementation from scratch
might not be necessary after all.
Do you remember this thread from 2012? I see you participated in it as well:
https://sourceforge.net
ad.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:43 PM Steve Nickolas wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, Volkert via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> > It turns out that writing another EMM386 reimplementation from scratch
> > might not be necessary after all.
> >
> > Do you remember this thread from
> become open source?
>
> I do not know more about it now than in 2012, seems like a not widely
> used EMM386 replacement, but if the quality is similar to 386SWAT and
> DPMIONE, I would be quite optimistic :-)
>
> Regards, Eric
>
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> people in general. I guess it would
> help if someone who he knows well and trusts would be willing to step up
> to the plate here.
>
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I can be more successful porting these drivers.
Who's up for helping me with this? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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final call: Any issues with packages in RC5?
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the design (layout and colors, etc) but it's good enough to get
feedback now.
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a student group yesterday, and shared an email
update with the other groups too, and let them know I'm making a minor
tweak to content based on freedos-devel feedback. Sounds like the
timing is okay for them (they are designing Personas and Use Scenarios
now) but I'll need to "lock i
isappeared.
I guess that the Firefox developers need to address this problem with Dark
system themes - not the FreeDOS developers.
Thank you,
shian
February 24, 2022 12:25:01 AM CET Jim Hall wrote:On Sun,
Feb 20, 2022 at 12:54 PM shian via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> "What do you mean
new version announcements here.
(This isn't quite what you were referring to, but maybe this will encourage a
few other folks to volunteer.)
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re the only issues I found in doing a quick review of
> Bob's GitHub project. In the meantime, I'll post a news item about it
> on the website and tweet about it from our Twitter account.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> [*1] I just realized that Russel's email gave me permis
/install new software.
Tauro
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86MAX).
But perhaps if someone creates a pull request for adding GEMMIS support to
Jemm, Japheth might be persuaded to merge it. (Although he has expressed
skepticism towards that as well.)
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The side of the payloads may (the stuff being installed by the installer)
may indeed have changed considerably.
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ndings here.
An installation time of an hour still seems excessively slow though, even
when no disk cache is loaded.
What added value does that issue reporting project on GitLab have over this
mailing list, by the way? Is it actively used, or is it expected to in the
future?
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> considered reliable for any major OSS project... I left the sources (no
> proprietary files included) for this minimal build with the serial code
> verification disabled here: https://github.com/rmorette/MAX
>
> Rodrigo.
>
&
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 12:46 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> In 1994, several of us got together around a pretty neat idea.
>
> We liked DOS, but Microsoft was clearly moving completely to Windows. "The
> next version of Windows," they said, "would do
On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 7:54 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2023 at 02:52, Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
> >
> > My main interest is using Freedos+HX as a substitute for Windows 95.
>
> AFAICS
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:08 AM perditionc--- via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 7:54 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>>
>> AFAICS you never explain. What is "HX"?
>
> https://www.japheth.de/HX.html
>
> HX DOS-Extender is
I can translate FDISK to Spanish. Native Spanish speaker, very good English
knowledge and working command of German.
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FDISK 1.3.8 into the wild:
https://github.com
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 11:03 AM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Wasn't a virtual get-together supposed to happen about now? -- Gregory
Maybe Jim is still under the weather?
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Hi,
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:51 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> For me, when I worked with, supplied and supported DOS in the late
> 1980s and early 1990s, the chronology went like this:
>
> [2] DOS 4 came along. It was a memory hog, but it had big-disk support
&g
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:19 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> VCPI was a small interface added to things like EMM386 which gave other
> apps access to things they would normally no longer reach after DOS gets
> locked up in a VM86 task by EMM386. While it is nice that
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:38 PM Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Yes, if you're prepared to add a curses layer, then you can
> support both the standard, plus non-standard things like
> a PC BIOS. But neither fullscreen application that I actually
> used and ca
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:24 AM Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> > However, most people don't care about standards, and even the ones who
> > do don't really think anything "useful" can be written in them. Which
> > is untrue and a shame.
>
I will look into it.
Jeremy
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 12:07 PM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just worked on checking tree 3.7.2 - it is a little bit tricky. The
> source code of 3.7.2 seems to be identical with 3.7.
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 2:29 AM Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> > FreeDOS should run on 8086, both kernel and shell. If it doesn't,
> > that's a bug or omission.
>
> Are you sure? I thought I was told that the standard
> distribution relied
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:45 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 17:55, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>
> > I believe "task swapping" was one of the main benefits of a 286.
>
> It's not a 286 hardware feature, no.
&g
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:46 AM Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:24 PM Rugxulo via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia says the 286 "was designed for multi-user systems with
>> multitasking applications". OS/2 1.x targ
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Just an opinion, but it's bad software design to assume that the presence or
> a peripheral implies
> a certain class of machine. The presence of a CD-ROM should not imply a 386
> or be
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 5:28 AM Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay. I've been sick recently (possibly Covid)
> plus had other stuff to deal with.
No fun, get well soon.
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On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 10:21 PM Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Sorry, the address was in octal,
>
> with -Ax to have the address in hexa it feels ok to me:
Most people prefer "hexdump" these days:
* https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/h
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 2:07 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Jim wrote:
> > I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build
> > T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment
> > package on it. We had this on previ
Hi,
Gmail caught one with its Spam filter. It doesn't show any prior
emails from this person.
author: [email protected]
subject: Re: [Freedos-user] TASM under an emulator?
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On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:07 AM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> ...as
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 1:42 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> has anyone recently played around with the FreePascal 8086 cross
> compiler to generate DOS executables? I try to convert a near pointer to
> a far pointer while working under the small memory model, but t
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:21 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> the tests I did showed that FreePascal is perfectly capable of producing
> reasonably small binaries fitting the small memory model, if you do not
> require the full language feature set (stay away
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:21 AM Walter Oesch via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> I want to build the FreeDOS Kernel.
Kernel 2043? Any particular reason to not use the stock build? Did you
modify anything or add any patches? Just curiosity?
> I use Dosbox in Ubuntu Linux and watcom com
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[email protected]> wrote:
> I want to build the FreeDOS Kernel.
> I use Dosbox in Ubuntu Linux and watcom comiler from FreeDOS, version 1.9.
>
> I changed config.b to use watcom and copied to conf
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 4:39 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> > Could you please post the exact message you got from the compiler?
>
> For something like this "FarPointer(@Buffer)" I get the following error
> message:
>
> "Error
Hi again,
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 7:56 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> >
> > I believe int64 was originally from Delphi. (Isn't there also "long
> > long" support in OpenWatcom via "-za99“?)
>
> Yes, Watcom C supports 64-bit integer a
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 5:46 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> On 12.11.2023 02:44, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> But I still have not found an elegant solution yet to do a widening
> conversion of an untyped pointer from near to far.
> Should be ra
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:44 AM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
>
> Hi! I just got reminded that (2017 news)
>
> http://www.os2museum.com/wp/vme-broken-on-amd-ryzen/
>
> VME is broken on AMD Ryzen of that time
Ryzen (Zen 1) was brand new in 2017, redesigned from
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:19 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> I think there may be a point where if one's going to run DOS on
> a modern machine, it'll have to be through some degree of emulation.
> Whether that be a KVM/QEMU-on-metal approach, or a
Hi all,
French and Turkish translation contributor to FreeDOS here. While
browsing the archive of freedos-devel, I stumbled upon the thread about
Edlin in Chinese and wanted to bring a few pages to your attention.
Firstly, you may see that some people are asking for CJK (Chinese,
Japanese
On 30.11.2023 20:22, Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel wrote:
They can voluntarily contribute if they want, but nothing is required.
Hi Bret,
I would have another question regarding USBDOS' license: what about
manufacturers that sell computers with FreeDOS preinstalled to avoid the
Wi
A86.
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 13:49, Jim Hall via
Freedos-devel wrote: I actually never
learned DOS assembly programming, but decided I'd
like to start.
What assembler do you recommend, and where is a good place to start
learning about DOS ass
20:10, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
I'm looking for a way to keep my text files (like README.TXT) tidy and
easy to read. One problem is that if I modify a plain text file in a
regular text editor, and change the line length in the middle of a
paragraph, now I have to fix all the lines a
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 6:32 AM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel <
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>
> Hi Jim,
>
> > I'm glad you're bringing this conversation back to freedos-devel ..
> > because this is a good place to discuss FreeDOS things.
>
&g
Hello,
perditionc--- via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 6:32 AM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> > I'm glad you're bringing this conversation back to freedos-devel ..
>> > because this is
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> Hello,
>
> perditionc--- via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 6:32 AM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel <
> [email protected]
perditionc--- via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 7:39 AM roytam--- via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> perditionc--- via Freedos-devel wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 6:32 AM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
>&
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 9:09 AM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
> thanks for your response. Xcopy is not the only thing, maybe you remember
> tree 3.72 in this forum?
>
...
>
> tree: do not know the actual situation, I got a promise that someone will
>
Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> LSPCI relies on a rather large list of known PCI ID,
> which is why I made PCISLEEP long ago: It just has
> a small list of known vendors and types, to keep the
> installation small :-) It also experiments with PCI
> base
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:19 PM Bruce Axtens via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> I stumbled over DX-FORTH this morning which purports to be "... a
> Forth language compiler and development system for MS-DOS and CP/M-80
> operating systems. It is intended to be a complete, easy to u
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 2:14 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> And years ago, we used to include COMPINFO in a previous FreeDOS
> distribution, but I don't remember why we stopped including it. If I had to
> guess, probably it was the same question of "usefulness
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tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > In freedos/files/dos/emm386/emm/2.2/emms226.zip, its makefile shows it
> > need to use sy2pack.exe or sy3pack.exe to pack just-compiled
> > emm386.exe.
>
> sy2pack/sy3pack used to be the only com
Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> Thank you ECM for the infos!
>
> I think my build did not finished normally.
> After about 1h build time on my i3-8100, dosbox finished with:
> Object Modules [.OBJ]: MAP DMA
> Run file [MEM386.EXE]: EMM386.EXE
> ...
>
Hi,
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:17 AM tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 um 13:14 schrieben Sie:
>
> it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it.
> and those who care about zoo have no clue.
> I regret that I hav
Hi,
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 2:02 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> C in general and Open Watcom in particular are good choices for DOS
> programming.
>
> The other free options supporting more recent C versions are GCC as part of
> DJGPP targeting 32-bit DPMI, an
On 23.05.2024 13:56, Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote:
a) fdtui - a mixture between dosshell and an NC clone - please check it,
I am sure you will confirm, (sorry, Berki)
[Now that I have seen Jim's mail showing list services are working
again, I'm sending my message
On 23.05.2024 21:20, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote:
Apparently people somehow failed to come to a conclusion which
version of ZOO to package under which license in January 2024.
Zoo is in the public domain, with no strings attached. Years ago someone
from Debain had sent an e-mail to
On 23.05.2024 21:29, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote:
I already incorporated rugxulos changes to my local copy of the ZOO
FreeDOS package repository. I will push the changes as soon as I get
write access to the repo. This is ZOO version 2.1.
Hey, that's really
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 8:05 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > but then I realized that since it doesn't know about it, it doesn't
> actually get the full line. It does only see the first 127 characters,
> > w
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 12:25 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Glad you got it working Jim.
>
> So, for fixing the issue…
>
> It would be possible to add an additional screen to the installer
> (probably only advanced mod
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 7:33 AM perditionc--- via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> DJGPP is where the cmdline env and extended command line processing is from I
> think, that or 4DOS.
> it's been a while, but it was based on and made to function like existing
> implementation
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, 6:26 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> from an engineering point of view, I would say LBA avoids
> problems related to mismatching CHS geometries on different
> computers, so I still prefer
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 5:14 PM Richard Stoltenberg via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Just some notes; updates. People might want to stick to the pdfs if they need
> bigger font.
> LibreOffice may be able to save as html. Got the C Language book from Lulu
> on Monday 3rd June.
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 6:06 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> Looking around on the ibiblio and my server:
>
> There is a version that has a timestamp from 2019 in the ibiblio mirrored
> files
>
> Then later, Jim found it as well in 2019 and mirrored it
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 6:42 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
>
> I wrote a "how-to" article about FreeDOS on the Pocket386 for
> Both.org, but I also copied/pasted this into a wiki article on the
> FreeDOS wiki:
>
> Now that I've reinstalled the Pocket3
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 6:41 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
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> You might be interested in this video I recorded yesterday about
> running FreeDOS on the Pocket386:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h96UseZs6Q
>
> It shows several apps and games on the Pocket386, m
Hi,
(Sorry for being late to this discussion, I'm a bit backlogged.)
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 7:05 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
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> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
> [..]
> > *Runtime*
> >
> > Jim's versio
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 11:07 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
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> I've been having sporadic problems today when trying to access Ibiblio
> via the web. I'm not sure if that's my end ("The connection has timed
> out") or their end. For example,
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profitable, use outdated PCs. -- Reply to message Date: Sat, 13
Jul 2024 01:03:47 +0300 From: Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
CC: Eric Auer , Hi
[email protected] > It's obvious that Freedos is dying. What makes you think so?
> I can probably revive it if I take
2024 01:06:49 +0300 From:
Jim Hall via Freedos-devel CC: Jim Hall
, First, I'll say that this appears to be either a troll or
spam. Opening with "FreeDOS is dying" is a classic troll "opening." And there's
a note in there that seems to be a discussion with someo
I don't understand what made you laugh -- Reply to message Date:
Sat, 13 Jul 2024 09:41:53 +0300 From: Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
CC: Ralf Quint , On
7/12/2024 3:05 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: > First, I'll say that
this appears to be either a troll or sp
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