Re: RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, 7:32 PM Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm > repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. > In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and > $FreeBSD$ tags. For example, lib/msun/amd64/s_sca

Re: RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 06:32:26PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm > repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. > In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and > $FreeBSD$ tags. For exampl

RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and $FreeBSD$ tags. For example, lib/msun/amd64/s_scalbnl.S contains /* RCSID("$NetBSD: s_scalbnf.S,v 1.4 1999/01/02 05:15:4

Re: i915: RCS timing out when being idled

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 9:58 AM obiwac wrote: > Hey, > > I didn't find a more appropriate mailing list to post to, so here it goes: > I'm afraid I can't really help with your problem, but issues with graphics should be sent to FreeBSD graphics GitHub . I thin

i915: RCS timing out when being idled

tion without wedging. This isn't ideal though because the RCS ends up unhappy after a bit of load and the GPU hangs (RCS engine crashes) :P I guess the issues (the wedging and the hang) could be unrelated but I have a strong suspicion they are. I've been trying to understand how the who

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > I also thought that perl was a good example of another piece of software > that once was provided and no longer is. Yes, that's true, but somewhat different. perl was removed because keeping it became incompatible with the

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

t;>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> > >>>> hi, > >>>> > >>>> For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed > >>>> attempt > >>>>

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 08:19:15PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 10:17:23AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > why should we remove it? > > IIUC the plan for several years has been to remove all GPLed software > from base. > > But in any case the conversation is moot. It wa

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

t;>hi, > >>> > >>>For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed > >>>attempt > >>>before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from > >>>FreeBSD > >>>12. > > > >why shoul

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 10:17:23AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > why should we remove it? IIUC the plan for several years has been to remove all GPLed software from base. But in any case the conversation is moot. It was removed from head on 20161015 by bapt: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

;>> hi, >>>> >>>> For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed >>>> attempt >>>> before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from >>>> FreeBSD >>>> 12. >>>> &g

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:17:23 +0100, Julian Elischer wrote: On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. why should we remove it? What will replace it? it's an integral part of many people's systems. Is there a non gnu RCS with the same features? surprised

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On 3/11/2016 10:45 AM, Pete Wright wrote: On 11/02/2016 19:17, Julian Elischer wrote: On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On 11/02/2016 19:17, Julian Elischer wrote: On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. why

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > hi, > > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD > 12. Whatever the outcome may be and

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On 9/11/16 6:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newer version being GPLv3 preventing any updates

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:17:26AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > hi, > > > > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are t

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > hi, > > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD > 12. > > GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newe

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

+1 to removing GNU RCS. FWIW; I did bring OpenRCS to the vendor area: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/vendor/OpenBSD/dist/usr.bin/rcs/ And I have a patch so that it builds on FreeBSD: https://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/openrcs.diff It is known to NOT pass the GNU RCS testsuite and I

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > ... > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD > 12. > > GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with n

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > hi, > > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD > 12. > > GNU rcs is a GPLv2 softwa

[RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

hi, For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed attempt before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from FreeBSD 12. GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newer version being GPLv3 preventing any updates/fixes. From previous discussions there were

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On May 11, 2015 9:33 AM, "David Chisnall" wrote: [snip] > And now you’re moving beyond missing the point and just trolling. Thanks for the ad hominen, David. You continue to make my point. Over and out, Jos > David > ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org m

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

>> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > > >>> On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, "Lars Engels" wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > > >>

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

ve is correct, and you are missing the point. Fossil, Git, Mercurial, and so on are all available as packages. No one is suggesting using RCS in preference to any of them. Deleting RCS from the base system would be nice, but unfortunately we can’t because of scripts that depend on

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

ote: > >>> On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, "Lars Engels" wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > >>>>> Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make > >>>>> much more sense to im

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

>>> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: >>>>> Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make >>>>> much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations >>>>> this day and age when better >>&

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, "Lars Engels" wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > > > Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to >

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, "Lars Engels" wrote: > > On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > > Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to > > import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to > import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better > tools are available. Of course, this would require people to learn > s

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better tools are available. Of course, this would require people to learn something new, which I know can be a challenge. Jos

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On May 9, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > We do that with GNU code anyways. The latest (GPLv3) version > of RCS has already diverged and is incompatible for some third > party software so we basically ran out of support from upstream. > OpenRCS has it's own shar

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On 05/08/15 15:59, Davide Italiano wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I guess I see the following options: 1) Just leave GNU RCS in the tree. 2) Improve OpenRCS so it can be swapped in. 3) Remove RCS dependencies from other parts of the tree

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi; > > >> I guess I see the following options: >> >>1) Just leave GNU RCS in the tree. >> >>2) Improve OpenRCS so it can be swapped in. >> >>3) Remove RCS dependencies from other

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

Hi; On 08/05/2015 10:44 a.m., John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, May 07, 2015 04:18:38 PM NGie Cooper wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS e

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Thursday, May 07, 2015 04:18:38 PM NGie Cooper wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hello; > > > > On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> > >>>

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

> > > > On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > >> > > >>> Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so > > >>> I am no

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 04:18:38PM -0700, NGie Cooper wrote: > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hello; > > > > On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> > >

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> >> On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so >>> I am not

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so I am not in a good position to take the next step and deal with any fallout it may produce. If we can have a build-kn

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/07/15 12:09, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > Some of you might recall that right before 10.0-Release there was a > painful attempt to remove GNU RCS from the base system. > > From my point of view, the lessons lear

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so I am not in a good position to take the next step and deal with any fallout it may produce. If we can have a build-knob to disable GNU RCS and enable the new one I will ha

What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

Hello; Some of you might recall that right before 10.0-Release there was a painful attempt to remove GNU RCS from the base system. From my point of view, the lessons learned from that were: -A lot more people than you might think find it useful to have a small version control system for thing

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On Oct 21, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Kris Moore wrote: > On 10/20/2013 20:58, Julian Elischer wrote: >> Kris. exactly what features need to be added to the boot process to >> allow >> what you want to do, but without using grub? >> > > Here's a list of the features we are using from grub: > > For ins

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On 10/20/2013 20:58, Julian Elischer wrote: > Kris. exactly what features need to be added to the boot process to > allow > what you want to do, but without using grub? > Here's a list of the features we are using from grub: For install medium: * Hybrid DVD ISO/USB image in same file * BIOS / U

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

Elischer wrote: On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both problems can be solved. The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almos

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/11/13 12:39 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >> On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>> On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >>>> I'm late to the party again ;D (didn

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

from Juergen Lock: > If you mean it loads the kernel but then crashes instead of booting it > then your grub2 version is missing this fix: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699002 > >I used Super Grub2 Disk image on the System Rescue CD written to USB sti

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

>> I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) > >> Both problems can be solved. >> The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. >> We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decad

Re: rcs

t; > Linuxes > > > and not enough lean and mean Unix-style kits... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however did we neglect to realize that even some ports need rcs > > > > > > => clog-1.6.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/p

Re: rcs

; > > > > > > > however did we neglect to realize that even some ports need rcs > > > => clog-1.6.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch > http://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/obrien/clog-1.6.tar

Re: rcs

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: > I have similar views. There is abundance of be-everything-for-everybody > Linuxes > and not enough lean and mean Unix-style kits... > > > > however did we neglect to realize that even some ports need rcs => clog-1.

Re: rcs

I have similar views. There is abundance of be-everything-for-everybody Linuxes and not enough lean and mean Unix-style kits... -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/rcs-tp5850096p5850951.html Sent from the freebsd-current mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: rcs

point- the requirement is "provide a way to keep track of changes for file X" not "have many fancy and unnecessary features"... >> >> That may have been the requirement at the time of the RCS import but the world has changed in my view. Feel free to use the old tools

Re: rcs

unnecessary > features"... > > That may have been the requirement at the time of the RCS import but the > world has changed in my view. Feel free to use the old tools though, nobody > is saying you can't. > > Anyway, why not change this for 11? Do we feel RCS is superi

Re: rcs

nnecessary features"... > > The point is to put back the specific RCS commands that were recently removed. > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-October/052106.html Glen pgpwrgyRT0jiY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rcs

On 2013-10-10, at 1:06 PM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > You're missing the point- the requirement is "provide a way to keep track > of changes for file X" not "have many fancy and unnecessary features"... The point is to put back the specific RCS commands that were

Re: rcs

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Diane Bruce wrote: > ... > > >>>> OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That > adds a > > real > > >>>> improvement to FreeBSD while giving people plenty of time to > prepare. > > F

Re: rcs

s wrote: >> >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" wrote: >> > >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> >> >> >> > well since people expect RCS.. it is not a no brainer. >> >> > you are asking people to l

Re: rcs

On 10 October 2013 20:36, Jos Backus wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2013 11:54 AM, "Igor Mozolevsky" wrote: > > > > On 10 October 2013 19:15, Jos Backus wrote: > >> > >> On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" wrote: > > > > >

Re: rcs

On Oct 10, 2013 11:54 AM, "Igor Mozolevsky" wrote: > > > > > On 10 October 2013 19:15, Jos Backus wrote: >> >> On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" wrote: > > > [snip] > >> >> > well since people expect RCS.. it

Re: rcs

On 10 October 2013 19:15, Jos Backus wrote: > On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" wrote: > [snip] > > well since people expect RCS.. it is not a no brainer. > > you are asking people to learn a whole new tool for functionality that > is currently ver

Re: rcs

... > >>>> OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That adds a > real > >>>> improvement to FreeBSD while giving people plenty of time to prepare. Fossil was showing promise the last time I tried it. Quite frankly > > well since peo

Re: rcs

On Oct 10, 2013 9:38 AM, "Julian Elischer" wrote: > > On 10/11/13 12:34 AM, Jos Backus wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> >>> On 10/9/13 11:59 PM, Jos Backus wrote: >> >> [snip] >>>> >&

Re: rcs

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/9/13 11:59 PM, Jos Backus wrote: [snip] > OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That adds a real >> improvement to FreeBSD while giving people plenty of time to prepare. >> > can fossil re

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On 10/11/13 12:39 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both problems can be solved. The loading of the kernel *after* cho

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >> I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) >> >> Both problems can be solved. >> The loading of the kernel *

Re: rcs

On 10/11/13 12:34 AM, Jos Backus wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Julian Elischer <mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: On 10/9/13 11:59 PM, Jos Backus wrote: [snip] OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That adds a real impro

Re: rcs

On 10/9/13 11:59 PM, Jos Backus wrote: On Oct 9, 2013 5:39 AM, "Kimmo Paasiala" wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Mitchell wrote: On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RC

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

On 10/10/13 1:05 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both problems can be solved. The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?)

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

;m late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) >> Both problems can be solved. >> The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. >> We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) >> I can put that in,

Re: rcs

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? > > The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their > technical case. > Still using RCS here and there, esp. managing /etc. Havin

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

Sorry for previous typo in From: line, missing right angle bracket at end. Then, in a finger error, I resent that message just before finding the error and making the needed correction. from Devin Teske: > I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turne

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

from Devin Teske: > I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) > Both problems can be solved. > The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. > We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) &g

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

from Devin Teske: > I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) > Both problems can be solved. > The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. > We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) &g

Re: rcs

as practically impossible to use. More on topic, since so many users depend on rcs, I say leave it in base, at least until OpenRCS or Fossil can replace it. Tom ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free

Re: rcs

On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 9 October 2013 11:28, Bruce Cran wrote: > >> On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>> Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have >>> 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is br

Re: rcs

On 9 October 2013 11:28, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have >> 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? >> > > At some point it was decided that the inst

Re: rcs

On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? At some point it was decided that the installer should be as simple as possible and package instal

BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

7;s no GRUB in a default install of PC-BSD 9.0, 9.1, or 9.2. Even on >>>> a ZFS-only setup (which is what I run). It's using the FreeBSD loader, >>>> with custom artwork and menus. >>>> >>> ​Hrm, it seems they've changed things with the 9.2

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

... > > I notice in diff'ing your work vs my work, that I started with > newer revisions of some of the files than the ones you have: I was well aware of that. There is no point doing much more until there is a decision from core. - Diane -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db

Re: rcs

On 10/09/2013 12:33, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2013-10-09 12:23, Freddie Cash wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred

Re: rcs

On 10/09/13 15:47, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/9/13 3:20 PM, Hans Ottevanger wrote: >> On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >>> Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? >>> >>> The proponents wanting to remove

Re: rcs

On 2013-10-09 12:23, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>> On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: You're right on the

Re: rcs

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>> >>> You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why

Re: rcs

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >> You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why >>> I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS. >>> >>> zsh

Re: rcs

On Oct 9, 2013 5:39 AM, "Kimmo Paasiala" wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Mitchell wrote: > > On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: > >> > >> On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >>> > >>> Okay f

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:56:46PM -0400, Kurt Lidl wrote: On 10/8/13 4:33 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <52542687.7000100 at pix.net>, Kurt Lidl writes: >> On 10/8/13, Julian Elischer wrote: >>> On 10/7/13 11:06 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 10:43:21PM -0400, Eitan Ad

Re: rcs

On 10/9/13 7:20 AM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? memstick.img always had a minimal set of

Re: rcs

Going off on a slight tangent... On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: For this to work in a disconnected environment, you need a ports tree with a fully populated distfiles/ directory. The hack we came up with was to put a FreeBSD host on the external network, on which we ran a scri

Re: rcs

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and > have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is > broken now? > memstick.img always had a minimal set of packages (mostly documentation se

Re: rcs

ust be "pkg DN> install rcs". As challenges go, that doesn't seem too bad? Topic starter mentioned, that assumption that everybody has online connection is completely wrong! As far as I understand, it was his main objection -- they have a lot of offline computers at work

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

since many of us have RCS'd our /etc files, or have install scripts that use RCS it should be RCS.. I don't care WHICH RCS it is but it needs to be back in place by 10. and the easiest way of having it there in the mean while is jsut to revert the commit until

Re: rcs

On 10/9/13 3:20 PM, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their technical case. Technically it is quite simple: I need RCS to

Re: rcs

ust be "pkg DN> install rcs". As challenges go, that doesn't seem too bad? Topic starter mentioned, that assumption that everybody has online connection is completely wrong! As far as I understand, it was his main objection -- they have a lot of offline computers at work

Re: rcs

On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS. zsh, vim, screen by default. and upgrades work. At the end of the day I'm spend

Re: rcs

on of things once they're moved from base to a package. A number of users and companies like that there is a very strict definition of base and that it wont change as the ports tree changes. Eg, you install 10.0 and get the rcs package from that. You then do an install of 10.0 a yeat later and i

Re: rcs

On 10/8/13 11:20 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 10/8/13 8:04 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a very simple way, and it works just fine for that. with no real need for any updates or any change. With all due respect Julian, The more we

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