Chris Brennan wrote:
> Anything gonna be done with this? It has promise but needs some more people
> involved.
The original web page which started this thread was removed from the
FreeBSD.org web site:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-all/2011-September/345334.html
For anyone who wants to
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Aldis Berjoza wrote:
This is interesting, and could be mentioned in updated page
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_games_bsd&num=1
>
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Anything gonna be done with this? It has promise but need
This is interesting, and could be mentioned in updated page
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_games_bsd&num=1
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On 09/01/11 20:26, Matt Thyer wrote:
Advocacy by the project members is not going to be taken as seriously as an
independent third party comparison.
It's clear to me that the project should stick to improving it's own feature
set and leave these sorts of things to others.
Otherwise we're strayi
Advocacy by the project members is not going to be taken as seriously as an
independent third party comparison.
It's clear to me that the project should stick to improving it's own feature
set and leave these sorts of things to others.
Otherwise we're straying into Fanboy territory which aint pre
On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Tom Evans wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Hartmann, O.
> wrote:
>> On 08/31/11 20:13, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>> The list would be way too long. I know other Linux-based groups that
>>> have integrated drivers from FreeBSD as well for proprietary work.
>>> Th
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
> On 08/31/11 20:13, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> The list would be way too long. I know other Linux-based groups that
>> have integrated drivers from FreeBSD as well for proprietary work.
>> Thanks,
>> -Garrett
>
> And claimed then it's GPLv3?
Not
On 08/31/11 20:13, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote:
On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
[1] wrote:
On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wr
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
>
> On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote:
>
> On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> [1] wrote:
>
> On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>
> I would be scared
> awa
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Chris Brennan wrote:
...
> It should be noted on the FreeBSD side of the comparison, whom has
> borrowed concepts from FreeBSD, such as the network stack or Gentoo's
> Portage system (just to name a few that come to mind.)
It's good for historical references
On 08/31/11 19:48, Chris Brennan wrote:
On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
[1] wrote:
On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be scared
away by such an arrogant looking page!
So, refactoring this page is a must.
On 8/31/2011 1:43 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> wrote:
>> On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be scared
>>> away by such an arrogant looking page!
>>
>> So, refactoring this page is a must.
>> 1°) Put it offline? (i.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
>>
>> If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
>> with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
>> over other systems.
>
> I do
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
wrote:
> On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>>
>> I would be scared
>> away by such an arrogant looking page!
>
> So, refactoring this page is a must.
> 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a "At work" placeholder)
> 2°) Process a feature
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
> Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400
> schrieb Chris Brennan :
...
> You should compare what you can *DO* better with FreeBSD. And one thing
> that comes instantly into my mind is the FreeBSD port collection (for
> my part). I've tried var
On 8/31/2011 8:07 AM, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
> Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400
> schrieb Chris Brennan :
>
>> the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid)
>> choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better
>> because we know we are, we have to provide a co
On Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:15:33 Hartmann, O. wrote:
> Or they need some hints already written by others like this:
> http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-FreeBSD-The-unknown-gian
> t-920248.html
>
> I'm not sure whether this is linked on the project's webpage, I
> didn't find i
On 08/31/11 14:07, Martin Sugioarto wrote:
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400
schrieb Chris Brennan:
the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid)
choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better
because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argumen
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0400
schrieb Chris Brennan :
> the object is to show people *WHY* FreeBSD is a sound (and valid)
> choice against the competition, we can't just claim we're better
> because we know we are, we have to provide a convincing argument that
> is true and honest fact.
Hi C
I heard of that news, but I didn't realize that web site was managed by John
Birrell.
Now, DTrace is not feature-complete and stable, I don't think it is suitable
to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/dtrace.html, but to
http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace, and people can easily update it
2011/8/31 C
On 08/31/11 08:59, Andriy Gapon wrote:
on 31/08/2011 08:46 Adrian Chadd said the following:
My 2c:
* remove the page for now;
* someone finds someone with proven marketing skills;
* enlist their help in marketing, PR, etc, and update the website with
relevant details;
* the rest of us develope
on 31/08/2011 08:46 Adrian Chadd said the following:
> My 2c:
>
> * remove the page for now;
> * someone finds someone with proven marketing skills;
> * enlist their help in marketing, PR, etc, and update the website with
> relevant details;
>
> * the rest of us developers/users should go back to
On 31 August 2011 13:28, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> So, refactoring this page is a must.
> 1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a "At work" placeholder)
> 2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy for
> N other OS, waiting for skills to contribute?
My 2c:
* remove t
On 08/30/2011 08:30 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be scared
away by such an arrogant looking page!
So, refactoring this page is a must.
1°) Put it offline? (i.e with a "At work" placeholder)
2°) Process a feature list on one table column, leaving N columns emtpy
for N other OS, waiting for s
Hi,
http://dtrace.what-creek.com no longer exists, because sadly, the
author of that web page (John Birrell) is no longer with us:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-November/001284.html
There are some other documentation pages available for DTrace on FreeBSD:
http://wiki.
I can help, I just changed my job and get more spare time. Currently I can
help write doc and test. There is much documentation about DTrace ( thanks
Sun), but none of these describes the technical details of FreeBSD DTrace
implementation, so I think we can start with this.
1 write doc about what
30.08.2011 12:23, Sergey Kandaurov wrote:
[Taking random email.]
I think we could merge the $subj web page with this one (which is
more actual, as of 7.0): http://www.freebsd.org/features.html
The pages serve different purposes. There's no point in elaborating
about feature X if feature X su
30.08.2011 12:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update is t
> I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
> like 11 years ...
Fixing some ancient PRs would be nice also. (fixed, not just closed)
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that the technology in use today (Tuesday,
August 30th, 2011) varies, radically from when
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html was written way
back, sometime in the year 2000.
The comparison being called for to be updated, needn't be that type of
comparison. If in the end, FreeB
ointing out that the technology in use today (Tuesday,
August 30th, 2011) varies, radically from when
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html was written way
back, sometime in the year 2000.
The comparison being called for to be updated, needn't be that type of
comparison. If in th
On 8/27/11 3:32 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
I think that it also clashes with the positive tone that (I've
experienced) in most of the website copy, discussions on this mailing
list, and other parts of the FreeBSD project.
We have an awe
on 30/08/2011 18:39 Andriy Gapon said the following:
> 4. There is a missing developer/maintainer for DTrace on FreeBSD.
I probably should clarify this point: it doesn't have to be *the* maintainer, a
collective maintainer is also perfect. Thus, contributions are very welcome.
> Nevertheless the
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:45:09PM +0800, Paul Ambrose wrote:
> 3 There is a missing feature list about DTrace, but no schedule list about
> when to fix it.
We just need someone who wants to spend a lot of time working on it.
Without that, there is no point in putting up a schedule.
mcl
On 08/30/11 17:34, Chris Brennan wrote:
On 8/30/2011 10:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document sh
On 30/08/2011 17:43, Chris Brennan wrote:
I do have any idea ... but I don't want to be the one spearheading
such a project, I lack the technical skills or the professional
expertise to lead this project, but I will certainly contribute if and
where possible...
I could probably contribute to
On 8/30/2011 12:21 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 08/30/2011 06:34 PM, Chris Brennan wrote:
>> But this comparison can't be trivial, it has to be genuine, authentic,
>> (peer reviewed across the board if possible), backed up by fact (links
>> back to other reputable sources). In short, it'
On 08/30/2011 06:34 PM, Chris Brennan wrote:
But this comparison can't be trivial, it has to be genuine, authentic,
(peer reviewed across the board if possible), backed up by fact (links
back to other reputable sources). In short, it's a monumental
undertaking
Yep, it's not trivial... and right
on 30/08/2011 16:45 Paul Ambrose said the following:
> I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting
>
> 1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel
> dtrace support is ok, but the userland support is far from completion(at
> least the
On 8/30/2011 10:30 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>> On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>>> On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>>> But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
>>> done by a third part
;> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
> >>>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
> >>>
> >>> I think this one would better look like li
On 08/30/11 16:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
I slightly di
On 30/08/2011 15:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
For a _comparison_, I think it's up to somewhere else:
To really compare, it's mandatory to really now the multiple compared
items. Who cares about the latest MS Windows internals (deep
networking capability, filesystem tricks, kernel schedule
On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
I slightly disagree with that.
No problem
Who else than the
On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
like 11 years ...
I agree with you.
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
I think this one would better look like list of major features with os
comparison, like:
= Networking =
* IPv6: major support, best stack around.
* SCTP: full
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote:
I would be happy if such a page would see an update in shorter terms
like 11 years ...
I agree with you.
But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be
done by a third party.
--
RMA.
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On 08/30/11 11:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update i
On 08/29/2011 10:58 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
If that page would be updated at least monthly giving fair comparison
with other os'es it could serve a big pros list for preferring FreeBSD
over other systems.
I dont think a monthly update is the good solution.
A per release update is better
rushed up or taken offline!
>>>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
>>>
>>> I think this one would better look like list of major features with os
>>> compariso
On 08/30/11 09:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os
On 29/08/2011 20:58, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
= SMP =
* (?something about comparing other shedulers with SCHED_ULE), (?some
rt stuff), (?some comparison with other interesting shedulers, like
DragonflyBSD and QNX).
From a recent post to -questions:
"Alas, during a recent kernel build, I us
On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
> 27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
> > This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
> > It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote:
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
I think this one would better look like list of major features with os
comparison, like
of vintage stuff from glory days.
> >>
> >> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
> >
> > Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
>
> It reads rather FUD-like too.
It's a pitty that the comments until now are only general
:
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
It reads rather FUD-like
nn, O.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
>>>>>>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.freebsd.or
, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hartmann, O.
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
>>> >> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-compari
;> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
>> >> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
>> >
>> > Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
&
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
>> >> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
>> >
>> > Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last decade.
>>
>
On 27 August 2011 20:32, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hartmann, O.
> wrote:
>> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-compariso
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hartmann, O.
wrote:
> This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
Agreed. Things have changed quite a bit in the last deca
This website should be brushed up or taken offline!
It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days.
http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html
O.
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