P.S. Asynchronous nature of vt is also a poor excuse in my view. There are
plenty ways to do it asynchronously, while preserving updates order. It
should not be one-or-the-other deal.
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> Ed, I think this is bug, not a feature. People expect sc
Ed, I think this is bug, not a feature. People expect scrolling and updates
to be smooth these days, the fact that we deliberately break it just
signifies very weird preferences somebody made while developing the code.
The fact that it "looks fine when scrolling stops" is no execuse IMHO.
-Max
On
Hi Maxim,
2016-06-28 21:14 GMT+02:00 Maxim Sobolev :
> P.S. Just if somebody is interested in fixing those "fast scrolling text
> turns into garbage" display issues, here is some screenshots of one of my
> 11-alpha3 systems captured with a camera at 120fps. As you can see text
> tears down quite b
P.S. Just if somebody is interested in fixing those "fast scrolling text
turns into garbage" display issues, here is some screenshots of one of my
11-alpha3 systems captured with a camera at 120fps. As you can see text
tears down quite badly. I am curious if it's some lack of proper ordering
of upd
Kurt Jaeger wrote:
Hi!
If you want textmode like in the old days, add this line to
/boot/loader.conf:
hw.vga.textmode="1"
If I do this on a laptop 10.3p5, sending the laptop to sleep with
zzz causes a crash (!), which is reproducable.
submit a PR
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Hi!
> If you want textmode like in the old days, add this line to
> /boot/loader.conf:
>
> hw.vga.textmode="1"
If I do this on a laptop 10.3p5, sending the laptop to sleep with
zzz causes a crash (!), which is reproducable.
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Ed,
For once, we have pretty good VGL support in the libSDL, at least version
1.x has been tested and seems to be building/working fine with
sc(4)+vesa(4) on supported hardware/VMs.
http://libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
So pretty much any application built against SDL 1.2 library should work.
Unles
P.S. On more of IMHO side, I think having simple built in console graphics
library is quite important in order for kids to actually explore FreeBSD
early. I remember learning my first computer in elementary, with only few
KB of RAM it had BASIC interpreter built in and could already do basic
graphi
On the topic of vgl(3) specifically, in October 2014 I wrote on this list:
> vgl(3) is a graphics library for syscons(4) that provides some basic
> graphics operations (e.g. some mode setting, bitmaps, boxes,
> ellipses). Right now it does not support the newer vt(4) console.
>
> In order to help
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 22:11:52 -0700
"Chris H" wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:22:53 -0700 John Baldwin wrote
>
> > On Monday, June 20, 2016 04:54:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote:
> > > Ed Maste wrote:
> > > > On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> > > >> I found the cause of this boot tim
For what it's worth: my two biggest grievances with the vt(4) vs. sc(4) is
the unordered updates in the graphics mode which makes watching quickly
scrolling text on something like virtual machine console funky and lack of
support in the libvgl(3). The latter I find particularly hard to explain,
sin
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:22:53 -0700 John Baldwin wrote
> On Monday, June 20, 2016 04:54:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote:
> > Ed Maste wrote:
> > > On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> > >> I found the cause of this boot time message
> > >> "vicontrol: setting cursor type: Inappropriate ioctl fo
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> John Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2016 04:54:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Maste wrote:
>>>
On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> I found the cause of this boot time message
> "vicontrol: setting cur
On 20 June 2016 at 23:22, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> There are tradeoffs in both directions. Neither console is a subset of the
> other. However, sc(4) is not really extendable to support the things it is
> missing. vt(4) is actively worked on, and patches for the features it lacks
> that you need
John Baldwin wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2016 04:54:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote:
Ed Maste wrote:
On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
I found the cause of this boot time message
"vicontrol: setting cursor type: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
In my rc.conf I had this statement
vidcontrol
On Monday, June 20, 2016 04:54:11 PM Ernie Luzar wrote:
> Ed Maste wrote:
> > On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> >> I found the cause of this boot time message
> >> "vicontrol: setting cursor type: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
> >>
> >> In my rc.conf I had this statement
> >> vidcon
Ed Maste wrote:
On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
I found the cause of this boot time message
"vicontrol: setting cursor type: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
In my rc.conf I had this statement
vidcontrol -c blink -h 250
From testing it seems that vt does not handle the "blink" opti
On 20 June 2016 at 14:29, Ernie Luzar wrote:
>
> I found the cause of this boot time message
> "vicontrol: setting cursor type: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
>
> In my rc.conf I had this statement
> vidcontrol -c blink -h 250
> From testing it seems that vt does not handle the "blink" option for
On 20 June 2016 at 12:45, Trond Endrestøl
wrote:
>
> If you want textmode like in the old days, add this line to
> /boot/loader.conf:
>
> hw.vga.textmode="1"
One note, in textmode vt(4) is limited to cp437. The console still
uses Unicode internally but has a fixed lookup table to map to the
cp437
Trond Endrestøl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:36-0400, Ernie Luzar wrote:
I have installed 11.0-ALPHA4-i386-20160617-r301975.
The console looks very different from all previous releases.
I find it to be harder to read. This manifests it self with the boot log
messages and the normal behavior o
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:36-0400, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> I have installed 11.0-ALPHA4-i386-20160617-r301975.
>
> The console looks very different from all previous releases.
> I find it to be harder to read. This manifests it self with the boot log
> messages and the normal behavior of the virtual co
On Monday, June 20, 2016 11:36:09 AM Ernie Luzar wrote:
> I have installed 11.0-ALPHA4-i386-20160617-r301975.
>
> The console looks very different from all previous releases.
> I find it to be harder to read. This manifests it self with the boot log
> messages and the normal behavior of the virtua
I have installed 11.0-ALPHA4-i386-20160617-r301975.
The console looks very different from all previous releases.
I find it to be harder to read. This manifests it self with the boot log
messages and the normal behavior of the virtual consoles.
But the real problem is in the notable hesitation wh
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