Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 07:53:46PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 12:08:07PM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > The single one -CURRENT vs. -STABLE difference that causes many easy to > > > fix breakages is really gcc. > > ... > > > and not ever

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-19 Thread Michael Nottebrock
Long, Scott wrote: All I'm asking is that ports maintainers make an effort to maintain their ports. Will's accertation that it's an all or nothing issue is certainly not productive, and neither is the 'us versus them' inuendo here. The single one -CURRENT vs. -STABLE difference that causes many

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Kent Stewart
Terry Lambert wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: In 40 years of using computers, nothing has changed. The system's people are still primadona's and do nothing wrong. Get used to it :). Unfortunately!! People don't install OSes because of the OS as much as the codes they can run on it. The importance

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 05:37:22PM -0400, Long, Scott wrote: > No, the systems people do do stuff wrong. It's been plainly pointed > out many times recently when someone does something wrong. However, > what's wrong with a little cooperation? If a port breaks because of > a system change, the ma

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:37:02AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that, > pkg_add has become close to worthless now th

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Kent Stewart
Will Andrews wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:37:02AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that, pkg_add has become close to

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Terry Lambert
"Long, Scott" wrote: > Yes, I'm sorry if it sounded like I was picking on the ports committers. > Changes due to standards compliance, architecture changes, etc, all > wreak havoc on ports, and hopefully the pace of that will slow down. > Unfortunately, the direction of FreeBSD is what it is, and t

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Terry Lambert
Kent Stewart wrote: > In 40 years of using computers, nothing has changed. The system's > people are still primadona's and do nothing wrong. > > Get used to it :). Unfortunately!! People don't install OSes because > of the OS as much as the codes they can run on it. The importance tree > is invert

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current

2002-10-18 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 02:20:59PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > In 40 years of using computers, nothing has changed. The system's > people are still primadona's and do nothing wrong. > > Get used to it :). Unfortunately!! People don't install OSes because > of the OS as much as the codes they ca

RE: cdrtools doesn't build on -current (pkg_add -r segfault)

2002-10-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Long, Scott wrote: > Nate Lawson wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Scott Long wrote: > > > [...] > > > **Warning, rant** > > > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > > > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > > > more ports break

RE: cdrtools doesn't build on -current (pkg_add -r segfault)

2002-10-18 Thread Long, Scott
> > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Scott Long wrote: > > [...] > > **Warning, rant** > > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > > more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that, > > pkg_add has become c

Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current (pkg_add -r segfault)

2002-10-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Scott Long wrote: > [...] > **Warning, rant** > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that, > pkg_add has become close to worthless