Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-09-01 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, O.. You wrote 1 сентября 2011 г., 20:06:21: > Once done, you can force on a non-important, big filesystem a crash. I > switched of one of my server boxes with a 3 TB harddrive for test purposes and > was amazed how fast, compared to unjournaled UFS2, the fsck now is performed. > Since *BSD

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-09-01 Thread Hartmann, O.
with options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support In single-user mode or unmounted filesystems: tunefs -j enable Ian Yes, it is really "THAT SIMPLE". But after enabling SU+J, I ran a "fsck" on the filesystem in question and I was asked wether I want t

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-09-01 Thread Ian FREISLICH
Niclas Zeising wrote: > Can you please detail a little more the steps you took to enable SU+J > and your experience with it? It sounds like a good start for a howto or > an inclusion in the handbook. It's really simple... You need a kernel compiled with options

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-09-01 Thread Niclas Zeising
On 2011-08-31 20:02, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 08/31/11 19:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. >> wrote: >>>I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates >>>on >>>

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-09-01 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:02:38 +0200 "Hartmann, O." wrote: > > ... and here I am again with SU+J on my box ;-) > > Tomorrow, I will perform this step on all servers. I guess it's a > "worth having". Most definitely. When rebooting after a forced power-down (due to that darned flash plugin lockin

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-08-31 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 08/31/11 19:56, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates on UFS2 filesystems. Agreed. Added to http://wiki.freebsd.org/DocsFor9x . Many thanks. As I could see, SU+J is

Re: howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-08-31 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >   I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates >   on >   UFS2 filesystems. Agreed. Added to http://wiki.freebsd.org/DocsFor9x . > As I could see, SU+J is enlisted to be enabled by default in 9.0-RE

howto: enabling journaling on softupdates

2011-08-31 Thread Hartmann, O.
I try to find a suitable reading/howto for how to enable softupdates on UFS2 filesystems. As I could see, SU+J is enlisted to be enabled by default in 9.0-RELEASE. What is the status quo of that? I've several active systems running UFS2 on their system disks while data

Re: Fix softdep_request_cleanup difference w/ and w/o SOFTUPDATES

2011-03-28 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:12 -0400 Ryan Stone wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I found a difference of definition softdep_request_cleanup. > > when SOFTUPDATES undefined softdep_request_cleanup take only two >

Re: Fix softdep_request_cleanup difference w/ and w/o SOFTUPDATES

2011-03-28 Thread Ryan Stone
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > Hi, > > I found a difference of definition softdep_request_cleanup. > when SOFTUPDATES undefined softdep_request_cleanup take only two arguments. > > Patch to fix this: > > Index: s

Fix softdep_request_cleanup difference w/ and w/o SOFTUPDATES

2011-03-28 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
Hi, I found a difference of definition softdep_request_cleanup. when SOFTUPDATES undefined softdep_request_cleanup take only two arguments. Patch to fix this: Index: sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c === --- sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c

5.2-BETA/x86: softupdates on / kills installation

2003-11-28 Thread Dan Foster
This is from 5.2-BETA-20031127-JPSNAP.iso on a P4/800FSB/HT system: Note: this was manually transcribed because of the nature of the bug (installation failure), was unable to obtain a crash dump to be saved. It's completely reproducible on every installation attempt *IFF* softupdates is en

softupdates panics fixed.

2003-09-02 Thread Jeff Roberson
I found the bug that I introduced around the 29th of august. It is fixed in ffs_softdep.c rev 1.143. Truely, most of the leg work was done by tegge. I just produced and tested a patch. This completes a buildworld with 128M of memory now, whereas before it just completed with 64m and 512m. perh

Re: maildir with softupdates

2003-07-23 Thread David Schultz
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > Is this statement still valid? > > "ext3 is unsafe for maildir, and with softupdates, so is ffs." > http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0202/0358.html The statement is FUD; this is a topic that mailer people l

Re: maildir with softupdates

2003-07-23 Thread Bill Moran
Attila Nagy wrote: Hello, Is this statement still valid? "ext3 is unsafe for maildir, and with softupdates, so is ffs." http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0202/0358.html Yes, It's also true that any form of write-caching is unsafe, so disable the caches on your SCSI and

maildir with softupdates

2003-07-23 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, Is this statement still valid? "ext3 is unsafe for maildir, and with softupdates, so is ffs." http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0202/0358.html Thanks, -- Attila Nagy e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Network (FSN.HU) phone @

softupdates panic?

2003-03-26 Thread Maxim Konovalov
Hello, Today -current, 100% reproducable. Script started on Wed Mar 26 18:17:44 2003 golf# gdb kernel.2603 -k vmcore.29 GNU gdb 5.2.1 (FreeBSD) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or di

Re: softupdates && write cache && ata tags topic

2003-03-10 Thread msch
Hi, > > Write cacheing is automatically enabled if tagged queueing is enabled > and supported by the disk, so I doubt you're seeing any improvement at > all. I must admit: My statements are based on experience with SCSI Tagged Queuing and SCSI Write Cache. I hope I'm correct if I assume that th

Re: softupdates && write cache && ata tags topic

2003-03-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Nuno Teixeira wrote: > I understand the basic concept of the folowing techs: softupdates, disk > write cache and ata tags. > > My question is: > > It is safe to use softupdates + write cache + ata tags (IBM disk)? > > I read someware that it not safe to use

Re: softupdates && write cache && ata tags topic

2003-03-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthias Schuendehuette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I consider it unnecessary to use WriteCache if TaggedQueuing is enabled > and working. > (The performace gain of WriteCache and TaggedQueuing is more or less the > same, the combination of both adds less than 10% of performance and you > shou

Re: softupdates && write cache && ata tags topic

2003-03-08 Thread Matthias Schuendehuette
Hi, > Is it safe to use softupdates + write cache + ata tags (IBM disk)? The summary of *my* experience and knowledge is: It is considered *unsave* to use Soft Updates with WriteCache enabled. I consider it unnecessary to use WriteCache if TaggedQueuing is enabled and working. (The perform

softupdates && write cache && ata tags topic

2003-03-08 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello to all, I understand the basic concept of the folowing techs: softupdates, disk write cache and ata tags. My question is: It is safe to use softupdates + write cache + ata tags (IBM disk)? I read someware that it not safe to use softupdate + write cache (without ata tags) and if

Re: Panic in softupdates

2003-01-29 Thread El Vampiro
OR> Just got this panic under CURRENT: OR> [... 21 frames after the panic removed ...] OR> #22 0xc02494fc in softdep_disk_io_initiation (bp=0x100) OR> at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:3453 [ ...snip...] looks simulate to kern/42277 and kern/42235 -- VAMPIRO-RIPN http://vampiro.rootshell.ru

Panic in softupdates

2003-01-29 Thread Ollivier Robert
Just got this panic under CURRENT: [... 21 frames after the panic removed ...] #22 0xc02494fc in softdep_disk_io_initiation (bp=0x100) at ../../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:3453 #23 0xc01df5ad in cluster_wbuild (vp=0xc2f457c4, size=16384, start_lbn=11, len=3) at buf.h:408 #24 0xc01d980c in v

Final test numbers for buildworld under stable, current / with and without softupdates (was Re: something funny with soft updates?)

2002-07-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
ments from softupdates (which remains relatively fixed between -stable and -current tests). There's nothing wrong with softupdates. #!/bin/tcsh -f # # (all tests run on a DELL2550 2xCPUx/1.1GHz P3s) cd /usr/src mv ~dillon/bwtest.out ~dillon/bwtest.out.bak ( /usr/bin/time -l make

Softupdates freeing unallocated space and panicing

2002-06-02 Thread Peter Jeremy
I have a system running -CURRENT from 7th May and it panic'd over the weekend: panicstr: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? panic messages: --- panic: free: address 0xccc792c0(0xccc79000) has not been allocated. syncing disks... panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy??? Uptime: 10d8h49m19s pfs_vncache_unl

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-06 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 12:52:06AM -0500, a little birdie told me that Dan Nelson remarked > In the last episode (Jul 06), David Scheidt said: > > > > I've dodged that problem by SIGSTOPing installworld a couple times during > > the /sbin install, waiting for softup

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 06), David Scheidt said: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Dan Nelson wrote: > > :In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: > :> As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it > :> was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root p

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Dan Nelson wrote: :In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: :> As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it :> was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to :> go back in the water there, now? : :The 2

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread David Wolfskill
>From: "Benjamin P. Grubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:46:54 -0400 >As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it was >unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to go back in >the water there, now? W

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: > As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it > was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to > go back in the water there, now? The 2 drawbacks with SU are 1 - You can't immedia

softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Benjamin P. Grubin
As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to go back in the water there, now? Cheers, Ben Benjamin P. Grubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: EDE9 A88F 3BCC 514A F310 FEFB

Re: OpenBSD dirpref/softupdates code

2001-06-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Jeremiah Gowdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010531 17:57] wrote: > I have been told that the OpenBSD code that is supposed to speed up some > types of file system access up to 60x, has been committed to -current on > 4/30. I'm wondering if there's any idea when it will be committed to > -stable? Are t

OpenBSD dirpref/softupdates code

2001-05-31 Thread Jeremiah Gowdy
I have been told that the OpenBSD code that is supposed to speed up some types of file system access up to 60x, has been committed to -current on 4/30. I'm wondering if there's any idea when it will be committed to -stable? Are their any stability issues with the code?

Re: softupdates related problem in -current

2001-05-29 Thread Brian Somers
> On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 10:18:43PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > Another problem I'm having in -current right now is with softupdates. Wh= > en > > the system panic'ed the first time, it came up ok and fsck'ed fine with no > > apparent loss of data.

Re: softupdates related problem in -current

2001-05-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 10:18:43PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Another problem I'm having in -current right now is with softupdates. When > the system panic'ed the first time, it came up ok and fsck'ed fine with no > apparent loss of data. However, during the fsc

softupdates related problem in -current

2001-05-27 Thread Doug Barton
Another problem I'm having in -current right now is with softupdates. When the system panic'ed the first time, it came up ok and fsck'ed fine with no apparent loss of data. However, during the fsck it complained bitterly about my superblocks, and when it was done and th

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:12:13PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > There's always the 'nosoftdep' mount option. It's also possible to > > enable it by default on everything except the root filesystem, but > > that's a [minor] POLA violation. > > I fai

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:12:13PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > There's always the 'nosoftdep' mount option. It's also possible to > enable it by default on everything except the root filesystem, but > that's a [minor] POLA violation. I fail to see what is wrong with defaulting to `off'. -- -

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. > > > If

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David Wolfskill
writes: >>> > The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. >>> > If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. >>> In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by default and let >>Problem is many still fe

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
tands _why_ it happens, but that doesn't make enyone any more comfortable about using softupdates on their root partition. I don't think it has anything to do with reliability. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
> > If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. >> >> In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by default and let > >Problem is many still feel it should not be used on / . Why not ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. > > If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. > > In this case, it migh

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:51:46PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, yes > The former isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide > if softdep should be the default. It defaults to what tunefs sets it to -- POLA. >

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:51 AM -0800 3/10/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >H. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went >ahead and did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, >come tomorrow's snapshot. Ooo. Might this be MFC-able before 4.3 goes out the door? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. > If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by default and let those who don't want it somewhe

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Peter Wemm
atch) except that it will be made > obsolete when the former goes in. The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. Paul tweaked it to be backwards compatable for -stable so that it didn't require people to up

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. > > Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. > Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and c

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones posted? -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 > > > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > > tunefs optio

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug th

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every > tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs > didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. I wrot

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I think this is really the only place to do it, just to ease > confusion. You also wouldn't need to put superblock-frobbing code > into sysinstall, just bundle tunefs into the mfsroot. Why not add the softupdates o

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread James FitzGibbon
* Jordan Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010310 14:52]: > H. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went ahead and > did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, come tomorrow's > snapshot. And that, in a nutshell, is why I love FreeBSD I've got a box that is in desperate n

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: James FitzGibbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:19:51 -0500 > Are there any issues/plans to let users enable softupdates from inside of > sysinstall ? No "plans", but it's certainly something which cou

sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread James FitzGibbon
Are there any issues/plans to let users enable softupdates from inside of sysinstall ? Softupdates are already enabled in the GENERIC kernel, but to turn them on you have to run tunefs with the filesystem unmounted. Too often I find myself doing an onsite install then doing all my customization

Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread Alex Zepeda
aiting on the arrival of the 2nd processor. It boots up and runs fine. > Before pointing any fingers at softupdates, etc... I think that > the first thing I'd do on this machine is switch back to using a real > uniprocessor kernel, and then see if I could replicate the problem

Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread John Baldwin
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 7:36 PM + 2000/8/28, Alex Zepeda wrote: > > > Perhaps in a rush to get started, I've compiled and > > been using a SMP kernel even before the second processor arrives. This > > has worked fine, however I've gotten some rather weird hangs and

Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
s > resulting in a nice lost+found directory on the usr fs. Personally, I'm astonished that an SMP kernel will actually boot and run on a uniprocessor machine. Before pointing any fingers at softupdates, etc... I think that the first thing I'd do on this machin

SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-27 Thread Alex Zepeda
ed where the SMP one did before.. I'm sure it's not a cooling issue as the sole CPU is staying below 35C. However I'm curious: * Are there any known issues with SMP and softupdates as of late? * Is running one processor with an SMP kernel such a horrible idea (other than perfor

softupdates panic, possibly related to snapshots

2000-08-14 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
= All local filesystems on the machine, except /, are running softupdates: == {roadwarrior:/usr/home/ken:2:0} df Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s2a

Re: Softupdates panic on SMP system

2000-07-09 Thread Matthew Jacob
I did some thinking about this, but no real code inspection, on a walk today- I think what is occurring is that the list of directory updates is getting refreshed from another process while the first process' list is being written out. A quick hack would be to make sure this doesn't happen (no -j

Softupdates panic on SMP system

2000-07-09 Thread Ollivier Robert
Hi, I just got a softupdates related panic on my dual PPro during buildworld. Sources from July, 4th. Build with -j4. I'll keep the dump if there's any need. #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 #1 0xc0177a29 in panic (fmt=0xc0298c54 "from debugger"

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-27 Thread Garrett Wollman
[Redirected.] < said: > I'm not sure I have a feeling that there are softupdate problems > running under SMP. A number of times this year I've lost whole filesystems > on an SMP machines. :( $ uptime 1:41PM up 34 days, 23:46, 1 user, load averages: 3.54, 3.72, 3.65 $ uname -a FreeBSD xy

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Jun 24, 2000, Kirk McKusick wrote: [snip] > Kirk, do you still want to keep things that way ? > > Adrian > > Yes, I do want it kept as a yunefs option. [snip] > Your above proposal would work, though that is not how NetBSD > implemented it. I feel that it is a lot of extr

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-24 Thread Kirk McKusick
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:54:26 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Brad K

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
mp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > >Slight problem: We've run out of mount option flags. mount -o softupdates ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attr

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-23 Thread Stefan Esser
On 2000-06-23 09:41 -0700, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Slight problem: We've run out of mount option flags. But there already ist MNT_SOFTDEP in ... #define MNT_SUIDDIR 0x0010 /* special handling of SUID on dirs */ #define MNT_SOFTDEP 0x0020 /* sof

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-23 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Right, but if mounting with -osoftdep, does what a "tunefs -n enable" :does (and vice versa) fsck will have that knowledge and the tunefs :step would be un-needed. : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 Slight problem: We've run out of mount option flags.

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-23 Thread Assar Westerlund
Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the NetBSD version to work, what needs to happen is that the -osoftdep > flag needs to be propagated to the superblock so that after reboot, fsck > knows what to do. When it is next mounted, then update it to the new state. >From what I can tell from

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-23 Thread Michael Reifenberger
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: ... > This has bitten a number of people who have turned softupdates on for > their root filesystems - and had installworld die. > There is a workaround for this: Before running installworld start a shellscript in background with: while true;

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Wemm writes : >Because fsck is supposed to be able to do things more intelligently when it >knows the *previous* mount state, not the current state. ie: if a disk was >last mounted in softupdates mode, fsck is supposed to do stuff differe

HEADS UP: softupdates (a bit late, but...)

2000-06-22 Thread Peter Wemm
The softupdates license has changed to 2-clause BSD-style with no more restrictions on use. The files were repocopied into their "natural" locations (sys/ufs/ffs) so that symlinks are no longer required. This has been done retroactively to all older branches that have the soft up

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Mike Meyer
Peter Jeremy writes: > On 2000-Jun-22 15:22:12 -0500, Chris Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I think it would be a very good idea to enable softupdates by default > >when a new filesystem is created. Modify newfs to do this and use > >tunefs only if you want to

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Peter Wemm
Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: > > [snip NetBSD making softupdates a mount option] > > > They obvioulsly DIDN'T discuss this with Kirk! > > > > this is not what he wants and for good reason.. > > see the long

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
lt if you want to avoid deadlocks. Kirk has previously >recommended that softupdates not be enabled on a filesystem unless it >has sufficient free space to absorb about 1 minute's writes. yup, this one is tricky, I tried to fix it by sleeping on the potential of allocating a block, b

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2000-Jun-22 15:22:12 -0500, Chris Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think it would be a very good idea to enable softupdates by default >when a new filesystem is created. Modify newfs to do this and use >tunefs only if you want to _disable_ softupdates on a filesystem.

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: [snip NetBSD making softupdates a mount option] > They obvioulsly DIDN'T discuss this with Kirk! > > this is not what he wants and for good reason.. > see the long discussion son this topic in the archives. I've read the mail

HEADS UP: softupdates mess in src/sys/ufs/ffs

2000-06-22 Thread John Polstra
what's going on? I just found out about this this morning. There's a bit of a mess in that directory. Somebody put the softupdates files into /home/ncvs/src/sys/ufs/ffs manually on June 21. The files were damaged -- each one had two RELENG_3 tags pointing to different branches. That cau

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Julian Elischer
ne must do > > > a "tunefs -n enable" for every partition that he or she wants to do > > > softupdates anyway, so just adding the support for softupdates to the > > > GENERIC kernel won't hurt anyone who don't want to turn that feature > > >

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Stefan Esser
t; If you're asking for a vote, you've got mine. > > Hmm, Kirk has valid points for leaving a softupdates filesystem identified > by tunefs and not a mount option. I do remember the discussion that lead to the requirement to enable soft-updates with tunefs -n. But I do n

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:30 AM +0200 2000/6/22, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > I like this. Would anyone object if this was brought over from NetBSD ? > > If you're asking for a vote, you've got mine. Hmm, Kirk has valid points for leav

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.hffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:30 AM +0200 2000/6/22, Adrian Chadd wrote: > I like this. Would anyone object if this was brought over from NetBSD ? If you're asking for a vote, you've got mine. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Don Lewis
On Jun 22, 2:21am, Don Lewis wrote: } Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep } On Jun 22, 10:30am, Adrian Chadd wrote: } } Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep } } } } [shifting conversation to -current .. ] } } } } On

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Don Lewis
On Jun 22, 10:30am, Adrian Chadd wrote: } Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep } } [shifting conversation to -current .. ] } } On Thu, Jun 22, 2000, Anders Andersson wrote: } > on Tor, Jun 22, 2000 at 01:46:34pm +0900, Akinori -Aki- MUSHA wr

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c

2000-06-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
every partition that he or she wants to do > > softupdates anyway, so just adding the support for softupdates to the > > GENERIC kernel won't hurt anyone who don't want to turn that feature > > on by default, except a little code increase. > > Please take a look

Re: Now softupdates are BSD licenced can they go in smoothly?

2000-06-21 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, George Michaelson wrote: >So does this mean the whole shebang of find/read/link/recompile can finally >end? NetBSD got rid of this ages ago. Well Kirk McKusick has already committed the license change, a la: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=524952+0+current/cvs-a

Now softupdates are BSD licenced can they go in smoothly?

2000-06-21 Thread George Michaelson
>From Daemon news: Kirk McKusick announced this morning at the USENIX keynote that the softupdates code will now be available under a BSD license. Details to follow. So does this mean the whole shebang of find/read/link/recompile can finally end? NetBSD got rid of this ages ago. -Geo

Re: Panic with userquota(softupdates?)

2000-06-18 Thread Kirk McKusick
From: Kevin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Panic with userquota(softupdates?) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:55:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep getting panics in dqget(ufs_quota.c), with a -current

Panic with userquota(softupdates?)

2000-06-16 Thread Kevin Day
I keep getting panics in dqget(ufs_quota.c), with a -current from a couple of days ago. I think this might be softupdates related, since I can't make it happen with softupdates turned off, although it's quite possible that it has nothing to do with it. Does anyone have any idea wha

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Parag Patel
gnificant difference: find /usr/src | cpio -pdum /target (~600k blocks): /noraid (1 drive, softupdates): 901.70s real 6.32s user 135.73s system 944.64s real 6.40s user 135.49s system (*MAXACTIVE to 3) buildworld -j16: src & obj on /noraid volume (1 drive, s

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Greg Lehey
x27;s worth. > > The biggest (non)surprise is how big a difference softupdates makes. > Nice! > > buildworld -j16: > src & obj on IDE disk (softupdates) > 5676.29 real 7701.09 user 6133.60 sys > src & obj on /noraid volume (1 drive, softupdates) > 60

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Parag Patel
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:14:20 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > > While we're on this subject, I recently did some benchmarking >with just a single disk on a machine running 3.4-STABLE, both with >and without softupdates. I haven't yet gotten a chance to test it >w

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:49 PM -0800 2000/2/17, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Depending on how temporary your temporary files are, it'd be > interesting to see if the 4.0 optimizations benifit your benchmark > and also remain stable. Yup, that would be an interesting question. > Would it be possible for y

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
ast > > series of bug-fixes a few weeks ago, everything works as advertised. > > While we're on this subject, I recently did some benchmarking > with just a single disk on a machine running 3.4-STABLE, both with > and without softupdates. I haven't yet gotten

Re: FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Brad Knowles
While we're on this subject, I recently did some benchmarking with just a single disk on a machine running 3.4-STABLE, both with and without softupdates. I haven't yet gotten a chance to test it with vinum and softupdates, but what I got did a pretty good job of impressing me.

FWIW: More questionable softupdates+vinum benchmarks

2000-02-17 Thread Parag Patel
ly questionable) tests involving find|cpio of the source tree and then buildworld -j16 on various vinum volumes. So I thought I'd forward the results to current, for what it's worth. The biggest (non)surprise is how big a difference softupdates makes. Nice! -- Parag Patel &quo

Re: panic (softupdates??) on yesterdays -current (alpha machine)

2000-01-23 Thread Matthew Dillon
box. Have you determined yet if softupdates is causing the problem or not? softupdates usually panics when something goes wrong. If you are getting a lockup rather then a panic it may not be softupdates. I've been running continuous buildworlds on my test box for two days

Re: panic (softupdates??) on yesterdays -current (alpha machine)

2000-01-22 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 09:43:14AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Softupdates only enabled on /usr, /usr/obj. Make release was > :putting it generated stuff on /usr > : > :No dump unfortunately, I'll see if I can catch it again > : > :-- > :Wilko Bulte

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