Re: your mail

2003-09-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Doug White writes: >Well this might be the source of problems. I've expressed caution at >doing this sorrt of thing before since getting the grounds equallized can >be tricky. If the ground levels become unequalized, or worse you get some >sort of ground loop goin

Re: your mail

2003-09-29 Thread Doug White
Please use subject lines. Thanks. On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Tomi Vainio - Sun Finland wrote: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > > > > An NMI almost certainly indicates a hardware failure. > > > Lucas James writes: > > > > It could be a power supply on the way out. I had an old dual P-166 that > >

Re: your mail

2003-04-09 Thread Mark Sergeant
> Did you look at M. Warner Losh's commits in cbb framework? > > They seem to be relevant to me. Having a look at it now, seems that yes pccbb.c has been updated and could be the cause of my problems, unfortunately my c is abysmal so bar rolling back to the previous version of this file I'll jus

Re: your mail

2002-11-21 Thread Chris Howells
Hi, Argh, sorry about loosing the subject. Unfortunately messages from my normal ISP are't getting through to freebsd.org mailng lists (I've contacted them about it) and I'm having to use a crappy uni web mail system) which I'm not used to, so forgot the subject --- reply

Re: your mail

2002-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Chris Howells wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 20 November 2002 5:08 pm, Robert Watson wrote: > > dmesg is a command that dumps the kernel message buffer. You can > redirect > > the output to a file: > > > > dmesg > fileofchoice > > Sure. This bit is sufficiently s

Re: your mail

2002-07-29 Thread Access Systems
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Tzouris,M wrote: ?? can read questions fine, but won't allow me to answer any of them Bob > Many thanks to everybody that send their feedback on this matter. > > I have now uploaded a text based questionnaire that can be found at: >http://www.geocities.com/tzmn

Re: your mail

2002-05-03 Thread Maxim Konovalov
On 18:24+0300, May 3, 2002, Radoslav Vasilev wrote: > unsuscribe freebsd-current use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- Maxim Konovalov, MAcomnet, In

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: > : Except for stupidity in libdisk(I believe) and thus sysinstall, there is > : no, none, zero reason why one cannot have two installations of FreeBSD in > : two different slices on the same disk. > I'

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: : Except for stupidity in libdisk(I believe) and thus sysinstall, there is : no, none, zero reason why one cannot have two installations of FreeBSD in : two different slices on the same disk. I've done make buildworld/installworld of both -cu

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:41:14PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Hmm - what's the stupidity? I have a test machine running both > > -current and -stable > Do you have the two FreeBSD installations on the same disk? If so, I'd > love to hear how you did it

Re: your mail

2000-11-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:41:14PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Hmm - what's the stupidity? I have a test machine running both > -current and -stable Do you have the two FreeBSD installations on the same disk? If so, I'd love to hear how you did it. I spoke with others and they also had problems

Re: your mail

2000-11-29 Thread Mike Meyer
David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:06:14AM +0100, News User wrote: > > I'm building news machines with two partitions for OSen, to allow > > me to boot into my choice, where my choice has been FreeBSD-STABLE > > or FreeBSD-CURRENT to see how the two compare, and

Re: your mail

2000-11-29 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:06:14AM +0100, News User wrote: > I'm building news machines with two partitions for OSen, to allow > me to boot into my choice, where my choice has been FreeBSD-STABLE > or FreeBSD-CURRENT to see how the two compare, and if there are any > significant improvements in -C

Re: your mail

2000-08-20 Thread Matthew Jacob
Already told him. It is. On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Tony Fleisher wrote: > Not sure if this is related to the recent commit of DEVFS code, but a > build of both the GERNERIC kernel and a custom kernel from a very recent > (last few hours) cvsup of -current failed during the 'make depend' with > an e

Re: your mail

2000-03-31 Thread Baby Jane Hudson
Someone can this idiot. On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 05:11:34PM +0200, Charlie Root wrote: > Subject: Mail::Internet test subject > > > This is a test message that was sent by the test suite of > Mail::Internet. > > Testing. > > one > > >From foo > four > > >From bar > seven > > > To Unsubscr

Re: your mail

1999-12-03 Thread Nick Hibma
> Actually, I don't think so. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that you end > up in the interrupt handler for the card that's going away, but with tty > interrupts masked so you can't get back into DDB. If it's a modem card, > then you'll have them masked as well. > > I'm _fairly_ sure that yo

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Mike Smith
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. >Dodd" writes: > : On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > : > PCMCIA has the problem that the hardware register you are talking to can > : > disappear on the spot, between 2 outb()s. > : > : Can't we do something about this using bus_space? This wou

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I had the same thought, but w/o a signal or other out of band error > communication, I'm not sure how to implement this. Well, if we do the detach and set a timeout freeing the device_t & softc the next read or write will fail and the 'sleeper' can bail ou

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: : > PCMCIA has the problem that the hardware register you are talking to can : > disappear on the spot, between 2 outb()s. : : Can't we do something about this using bus_space? This would give us a

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick Hibma writes: : PCMCIA has the problem that the hardware register you are talking to can : disappear on the spot, between 2 outb()s. Yes. That's why one must poll the device, from time to time, to see if it is gone. Yucky-poo. Warner To Unsubscribe: send m

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > PCMCIA has the problem that the hardware register you are talking to can > disappear on the spot, between 2 outb()s. Can't we do something about this using bus_space? This would give us a fair bit of overhead for PCMCIA devices as well as require us to mor

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Nick Hibma
> There are other contexts for the same issues anyway. USB has devices > that go away suddenly, and it _is_ designed to be hot-removable, so > people are going to be pulling the plug on network adapters, ZIP > drives, etc. We need drivers that are capable of going away cleanly, > or at least wit

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : Hmm.. something's not right. I can eject my ed card (though I get : the "pccard: card removed, slot 0" message twice. But it doesn't : attach if I insert it again. "driver allocation failed for : Linksys(Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC):

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-02 Thread Christopher Masto
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:55:24AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > : Well, here's all I've got. It's basically just a sloppy version of > : what you suggested. > > I've cleaned this up, worked it around, and managed to insert and > eject my

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Nick Hibma
> : Hey, we're getting somewhere. It works, in that it stops the panic. > : I get the "ed0: unloaded" message, and the machine doesn't panic, but > : there are still some problems. It seems that device_delete_child > : is failing (I forgot to print the return code, but it is not zero), > : and r

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Christopher Masto
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:02:54PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:05:38AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > > > : The only "right" solution is for us to mandate that people down cards > > > : before ejecting them. > ... >

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > : Hey, we're getting somewhere. It works, in that it stops the panic. > : I get the "ed0: unloaded" message, and the machine doesn't panic, but > : there are still some problems. It seems that d

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > Hmmm... That's something... How do you know that the delete_child is > > failing? An if printing that it failed or conjecture based on the > > insertion results? > > You should definitely check the delete result, yes. > > Also, are you calling bus_g

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Mike Smith
> On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:05:38AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > > : The only "right" solution is for us to mandate that people down cards > > : before ejecting them. ... > I would like to see that something along the lines of a method to shut

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Warner Losh
--- Blind-Carbon-Copy To: Christopher Masto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Dec 1999 12:36:29 EST." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Christopher Masto
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:05:38AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > : The only "right" solution is for us to mandate that people down cards > : before ejecting them. The physical design of pccards basically gives us > : no other option. No matter

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : The only "right" solution is for us to mandate that people down cards : before ejecting them. The physical design of pccards basically gives us : no other option. No matter how hard we try to get it "right" for : spontaneous removal, we can'

Re: your mail

1999-12-01 Thread Mike Smith
> > With freeze I meant, freeze. Rock solid. Nothing to be done. Stepping > through the code the laptop freezes in the second putb in pcic_disable. > As in stepping the assembler to that outb does never return the prompt. Actually, I don't think so. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that you end

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-12-01 Thread Mike Smith
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > : On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 04:52:33PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > : > It would help me if you could send me your patches... > : > : Well, here's all I've got. It's basically just a sloppy version of > : what you suggested. > > OK. Thi

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : Well, here's all I've got. It's basically just a sloppy version of : what you suggested. I've cleaned this up, worked it around, and managed to insert and eject my ep card 5 times in a row on my desktop kludge environment. It even appear

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 04:52:33PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > It would help me if you could send me your patches... : : Well, here's all I've got. It's basically just a sloppy version of : what you suggested. OK. This should help.

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 04:52:33PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > It would help me if you could send me your patches... Well, here's all I've got. It's basically just a sloppy version of what you suggested. Index: pccard.c === RCS fil

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : Ho hum. sio_pccard_detach also needs to be fixed to return 0, but I : don't think that explains the freeze. Unfortunately, while I can : sometimes squeeze in a few minutes to try quick fixes, my current : job doesn't leave me with time t

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: : You should definitely check the delete result, yes. : : Also, are you calling bus_generic_detach() after deleting the child? : I got the impression from Doug that this is required... In the child? device_delete_child() already calls device_det

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Mike Smith
> Hmmm... That's something... How do you know that the delete_child is > failing? An if printing that it failed or conjecture based on the > insertion results? You should definitely check the delete result, yes. Also, are you calling bus_generic_detach() after deleting the child? I got the im

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
I'm on my way out for dinner, just thought I'd mention the latest experiment results. On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 04:19:18PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > : And further data on the CDPD card.. removing it while PPP is still > : running just paniced in sioioctl. However, the delete_child didn't > : fai

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : I added a check of the return value. It seemed to be returning 12 : (ENOMEM), but I'm not sure if that's real or garbage, since I'm having : trouble finding a code path that would return that. You might want to make ed_pccard_detach retu

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 04:04:40PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > : Hey, we're getting somewhere. It works, in that it stops the panic. > : I get the "ed0: unloaded" message, and the machine doesn't panic, but > : there are still some proble

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : It's not quite working. I think I got away ok with the ethernet card : because it wasn't being accessed, but my CDPD card with a running PPP : session pretty reliably still freezes up. Hrm. No, it's not freezing : up, it's a panic, but

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Mayhar writes: : I'll bet Warner meant : device_delete_child(pccarddev, kid[i]); : up there, and not : device_delete_child(pccarddev, kid[0]); : : Did you try that? Yes. He did. Likely won't make a difference here because we don'

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:54:28PM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > > pccarddev = devclass_get_device(pccard_devclass, slt->slot); > > > device_get_children(pccarddev, &kids, &nkids) > > > for (i = 0; i < nkids; i++) > > >

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : Hey, we're getting somewhere. It works, in that it stops the panic. : I get the "ed0: unloaded" message, and the machine doesn't panic, but : there are still some problems. It seems that device_delete_child : is failing (I forgot to prin

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Frank Mayhar
Christopher Masto wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > > : I found that the only message printed was "ready to power off". > > > > bingo. looks like we're not deleting the child. Try replacing that >

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: > : I found that the only message printed was "ready to power off". > > bingo. looks like we're not deleting the child. Try replacing that > for loop with something like: > >

Re: PCCARD eject freeze (was Re: your mail)

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : I found that the only message printed was "ready to power off". bingo. looks like we're not deleting the child. Try replacing that for loop with something like: pccarddev = devclass_get_device(pccard_devclass, slt->slot);

Re: your mail

1999-11-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Masto writes: : I noticed that the "new" code does the power off before the : reset.. dunno if this is significant. Shouldn't be... I gotta get a bouncer system that I can plug a bridge into to see if I can get this problem to happen for me (which i thi

Re: your mail

1999-11-30 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 08:09:41PM +0100, Nick Hibma wrote: > > With freeze I meant, freeze. Rock solid. Nothing to be done. Stepping > through the code the laptop freezes in the second putb in pcic_disable. > As in stepping the assembler to that outb does never return the prompt. I certainly ha

Re: your mail

1999-11-30 Thread Nick Hibma
With freeze I meant, freeze. Rock solid. Nothing to be done. Stepping through the code the laptop freezes in the second putb in pcic_disable. As in stepping the assembler to that outb does never return the prompt. Nick > >From some very brief testing here, the problem is that the card's > int

Re: your mail

1999-07-29 Thread Nick Hibma
Try sending the command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Joachim Kuebart wrote: > unsubscribe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020

Re: your mail

1999-05-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Tomer Weller wrote: > whenever i try to compile KDE software (ports also) i get this error, though > packages install fine. > i installed KDE from packages, i suspect that's the problem. I didn't see a response to this as I was going through my inbox, so apologies if this ha