Re: questions about the state of current

2002-11-02 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 29-Oct-2002 clark shishido wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:40:53AM -0700, Raymond Kohler wrote: > >> 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slow some >months ago and > >> was wondering how it was improving. > >> >

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-30 Thread Colin Harford
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 11:43 AM, Doug Rabson wrote: I compiled kde3 a week or so ago on my laptop running -current and it is now my new desktop, so I think reports of kde being totally hosed are a bit exagerated or perhaps dated. Hmm. I compiled it a few days ago and it was qui

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-30 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 29-Oct-2002 clark shishido wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:40:53AM -0700, Raymond Kohler wrote: > >> 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slow some >months ago and > >> was wondering how it was improving. > >> >

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/10/29 13:06), Matthew Dillon wrote: > :Most of the speed difference is WITNESS, INVARIANTS, and other > :debugging code that's turned on by default in the config files > :for -current. You can turn most of it off. That said, -current > :is slower than -stable in a number of places, so e

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: > Interrupt threads have 'grown' on me. I like them. > But I come from an embedded world where switching threads > costs no more then a procedure call. The way I figure it, > we will eventually be able to make -current's scheduler > efficient enough such

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I agree that "it's to be expected", but the "it doesn't matter" :argument is pretty lame. It matters. Coming to FreeBSD the :first time, I would definitely make a decision for 4.7 vs. 5.x :if performance were an issue for me. I still have not seen a :reasonable justification for interrupt thre

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: > That said, it should be noted that nearly all the > really cool development projects are only happening in -current. Not by choice... 8-) 8-). > And, of course, there is the fact that computing power seems to > double every year. Since -current's overhead

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Most of the speed difference is WITNESS, INVARIANTS, and other :debugging code that's turned on by default in the config files :for -current. You can turn most of it off. That said, -current :is slower than -stable in a number of places, so expect some :slowdown, if you are running non-concurre

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Raymond Kohler wrote: > I'm now a stable user, and I'm considering moving to current to get a jump > on upgrading and help with the testing effort. I have some questions about > its performance: > > 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slow > some months ago and was

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Munish Chopra
On 2002-10-29 11:40 +, Raymond Kohler wrote: > I'm now a stable user, and I'm considering moving to current to get a jump on >upgrading and help with the testing effort. I have some questions about its >performance: > > 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slo

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Eric Hodel
Raymond Kohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > 3) Are there any Very Important Packages (mozilla, kde, &c) that > won't build or refuse to work right? I've been compiling mozilla/phoenix for months now, out of CVS, and it was only broken twice, and for no more than a couple of days. -- Eric Hodel

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:40 AM -0700 10/29/02, Raymond Kohler wrote: I'm now a stable user, and I'm considering moving to current to get a jump on upgrading and help with the testing effort. Note that -current is a much wilder place than -stable. I have some questions about its performance: 1) How is the speed

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread John Baldwin
On 29-Oct-2002 clark shishido wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:40:53AM -0700, Raymond Kohler wrote: >> 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slow some >months ago and >> was wondering how it was improving. >> >> 2) Are the random hangs in X fixed yet? I can put

Re: questions about the state of current

2002-10-29 Thread clark shishido
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:40:53AM -0700, Raymond Kohler wrote: > 1) How is the speed compared to stable? I remember it being just too slow some >months ago and was wondering how it was improving. > > 2) Are the random hangs in X fixed yet? I can put up with a few issues (it is >current, after a